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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 21:13:19 GMT
I wouldnt dream of questioning why you shouldnt know it or requiring an explantion of how you know it . Im asking you how you know you have it all, if you are refusing to use intent to obtain it.
Where's that first bit come from now ?Whats given you the impression I thought you were asking for an explanation of how I know it or doubing that i did ? .
I also dont know where the second bit's come from seeing as I havent once said that i know I have it all or am refusing anything in any way .
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:21:26 GMT
if read whats been written youd see I wasnt under that impression at all
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:32:33 GMT
"I no longer question WHY I feel they are right because I can't answer it"
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 21:34:51 GMT
I have read what's been written.I presumed from this bit "I wouldnt dream of questioning why you shouldnt know it or requiring an explantion of how you know it" that you were under the impression that I thought you were .
Or if you're talking about the second bit then you've lost me entirely .If you werent under the impression that I'm refusing something then why are you asking me why I am ?.
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:42:05 GMT
because I think if your no longer questioning it you cant be using intent to aquire it , which as I said previously isnt only a hell of a chance to take but is completely uneccessary
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:43:20 GMT
and if your not you cant be certain that you have it all
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:48:10 GMT
and if your not certain you have it all, you may not have any and just be in the same predicament as those relying on what they they percieve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 21:49:43 GMT
Do you ever get that feeling were you wish you hadn't bothered?
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:52:43 GMT
no , thats the whole purpose behind it
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:53:34 GMT
not to get in the crap thats there to preoccupy
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 21:57:16 GMT
to turn the preoccupation into a possitive discovery
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 21:57:58 GMT
because I think if your no longer questioning it you cant be using intent to aquire it , which as I said previously isnt only a hell of a chance to take but is completely uneccessary I dont think you read what I said about questioning |
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:02:36 GMT
I not only read it but here is the quote
" "I no longer question WHY I feel they are right because I can't answer it"
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:04:49 GMT
Yes I know exactly what i wrote and dont need quotes to remind me .You've misunderstood me completely
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:07:13 GMT
Granted i wasnt particularly clear but I thought youd know what i meant without me going into more detail
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:10:26 GMT
I also wrote
I dont question why I should know it because I know why .Its just something I cant explain to myself .Not everything needs an explanation.
perhaps I should have added that I cant explain to myself in words and that not everything needs an explanation in words .
perhaps I should just start from scartch and choose my words more carefully
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Post by yord on Feb 3, 2009 22:12:28 GMT
Im pretty sure I do, but that dosnt negate the matter that you can not have a certainty, soooooooo it is a hell of a chance to take etc
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Post by cathy on Feb 3, 2009 22:22:22 GMT
People who believe the Old Testament as a literal statement from God argue that He created all things ... including plants, animals, insects, birds, fish and of course man.
Okay, that's fair enough. I have no problem with that if that's what they want to believe. But ....... so far as I'm aware God didn't say everything would have to stay the same for every more ..... locked in some kind of time warp.
So .... why can't the Creationists accept that all things change over time? After all, for all they know perhaps it was part of Gods plan that life would evolve and improve.
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:22:32 GMT
As Ive got older my opinions on certain things have changed : When i was younger I attached a "why" to everything . "Why has that happened" If I couldnt find a satisfactory answer then it was easier to dismiss it .More or less reaching the conclusion that certain things couldnt happen at all because they werent logical .As Ive got older Ive realised that quite often logic ,as we understand it ,has no place .Certian things happen and I cant explain why they do because I dont have the knowledge to do that .I have no idea if I'll ever have that knoweldge .There are also certain things I know now that when I was younger i would have dismissed as fanciful- again because I cant explain to myself ,in words ,why I know them.It's something deeper than that .Do I question it ? yes I do but i dont think I should because I'm doubting myself when I do .Doubting what I know .Because logic creeps in and tells me I cant possibly know some things because no one else has taught them to me
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Post by feral on Feb 3, 2009 22:24:27 GMT
Im pretty sure I do, but that dosnt negate the matter that you can not have a certainty, soooooooo it is a hell of a chance to take etc One thing I know is that you can have a certainty .It may not go where you want it to go but you can still have it |
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