Rapey Aussie to face brutality of Swedish justice

[noam]

Yeah man, stick it to the neocons.

Assuming it is a stitch up and there is not enough evidence to secure a conviction he should go back for the questioning. All the wriggling just makes him look bad. You say no one has heard his side of the story. Well there's an easy solution to that.

[auldhippy]

Feb 25, 2011 8:39:50 GMT flatandy said:

The most laughable thing, I think, is the argument that he's scared of being extradited to the US from Sweden, but apparently is comfortable in the UK. Has he not noticed that we've been felching America for a decade, acceding to every daft judicial request from them, helping with all their rendition. Frankly, he'd be better less like to end up in a US prison if he was in Nashville than if he stayed in London.

That might make sense if Assange had been charged with something in the US to be extradicted for.

By all accounts Sweden has been quite helpful in rendition cases.

[flatandy]

Surely he only needs to be charged under US law, and they'll stick an extradition warrant in under terrorism laws and off he goes to Guantanamo. That's how we do it with people who've been pickpockets in Omaha or who didn't pay a speeding fine in Billings. Don't think it would be different for someone charged with treason in the US.

[auldhippy]

Feb 25, 2011 9:23:36 GMT flatandy said:

Surely he only needs to be charged under US law, and they'll stick an extradition warrant in under terrorism laws and off he goes to Guantanamo. That's how we do it with people who've been pickpockets in Omaha or who didn't pay a speeding fine in Billings. Don't think it would be different for someone charged with treason in the US.

How can he be charged with treason in the US? He's Aussie and the crimes, if any, weren't committed in the US.

Sheesh all these mid aged men jealous of all the boom boom he's getting, it's embaressing.

[noam]

I get plenty of boom boom, so it's not that in my case, I just think he's a cunt.

[flatandy]

Eh? I'm just saying that he's disingenuous arguing that Britain isn't going to be complicit in getting him to the US, but Sweden will ship him off. Do you really think the British government has a great record of keeping non-crims out of the US justice system?

[mids]

Isn't it odd how how all these one-world (or one-Europe, at least) government types are now coming out in favour of the nation state where Assange is concerned?

[noam]

Good point Mids.

[takemebacktolondon]

No-one has ever been extradited without charges given .They just want to question him . FFFffff.
No ground for extradition .
Lets face it Straw didnt even have the guts to extradite Pinochet to Spain and he was a War Crinminal well known .
This another instance of British law that is playing sill buggers .
Why bother with the expense of a lower court when previously the judge stated that "of course
it will go to appeal ."
Its the legalistic merry go round passing the parcel but pocketing the dough.

[auldhippy]

Feb 25, 2011 9:29:08 GMT flatandy said:

Eh? I'm just saying that he's disingenuous arguing that Britain isn't going to be complicit in getting him to the US, but Sweden will ship him off. Do you really think the British government has a great record of keeping non-crims out of the US justice system?

No I'm saying the US have no reason to extradict him from the UK. No US charges have yet been made. Should they do so it would be easier if he were already in custody on charges from a friendly nation.

If I were Assange I'd be protecting my freedom with every trick in every book.

As to the claims made by the women they must be considered in the same light as all other claims made by women against men, it's their individual words against his, the likelyhood of a conviction, even if actually guilty, seem remote.

Answering someone else's point how could Assange take advantage of Manning? Manning would have had to make the first contact and Assange's reluctance to allow access to emails etc is saving Manning from 60 years incarceration. Also the person who released the embassy cables and even the person who released the BNP membership list (probably not from 60 years).

Go wikileaks Go wikileaks Go wikileaks, the closest thing to integrity on the net.

[auldhippy]

Feb 25, 2011 9:31:20 GMT mids said:

Isn't it odd how how all these one-world (or one-Europe, at least) government types are now coming out in favour of the nation state where Assange is concerned?

What bollox

[lala]

Feb 25, 2011 9:31:20 GMT mids said:

Isn't it odd how how all these one-world (or one-Europe, at least) government types are now coming out in favour of the nation state where Assange is concerned?

Point of order, " all these one-world (or one-Europe, at least) government types" seems to consist of OH and TMBTL. Or have my comments, and the fat boys blabberings, been memory holded to allow you to make some specious point?

[lala]

Feb 25, 2011 10:31:24 GMT takemebacktolondon said:

No-one has ever been extradited without charges given .They just want to question him . FFFffff.

Bullshit:

"There is no doubt that a Swedish prosecutor does have the power to issue warrants," said Knowles. "And the Swedish prosecutor has made it clear that Mr Assange is wanted for trial if he goes back. Unless he can demonstrate his innocence before trial, he will be tried."

[auldhippy]

Feb 25, 2011 18:52:13 GMT lala said:

Feb 25, 2011 9:31:20 GMT mids said:

Isn't it odd how how all these one-world (or one-Europe, at least) government types are now coming out in favour of the nation state where Assange is concerned?

Point of order, " all these one-world (or one-Europe, at least) government types" seems to consist of OH and TMBTL. Or have my comments, and the fat boys blabberings, been memory holded to allow you to make some specious point?

What the feck is a "One Worlder". Like a flat Earther you have the man sentenced already.

[lala]

I think there is a case to answer. Or does it not matter when people who do stuff you like do bad stuff on the side?

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Worth noting a couple of points.

1. the widely held view that the swede's had looked into the rape allegations and decided that there was no case to answer, isn't quite true.
They had looked into it and the senior prosecutor, Eva Finne, decided that wahat he was accused of didn't constitute rape under swedish law, but did constitute sexual assault.

2. When Assange left sweden it was under the explicit understanding he would return for a police interview on 14th Oct, which he then decided not to go to.


frankly, if there was a lad wandering around Sweden who was suspected of sexual assault, who had been allowed out on an undertaking he'd return for an interview and had just buggered off, we'd want him back.

[auldhippy]

Feb 25, 2011 20:36:44 GMT lala said:

I think there is a case to answer. Or does it not matter when people who do stuff you like do bad stuff on the side?

He's answered the case once already!

[auldhippy]

But on Saturday, as international media outlets were beginning to pick up the story, Eva Finne, Sweden's chief prosecutor, announced that Assange was no longer wanted.

"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," the chief prosecutor said, but declined to go into any more details.

From 21/08/10

english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/08/2010821153010551757.html

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

But on Saturday, as international media outlets were beginning to pick up the story, Eva Finne, Sweden's chief prosecutor, announced that Assange was no longer wanted.

"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," the chief prosecutor said, but declined to go into any more details.

As I said, she decided his actions constituted sexual assault not rape and withdrew the warrant for his arrest for rape. he meanwhile had been released on a promise to return for a police interview, a promise he decided not to keep.

The fact that Mark Stephens his solicitor decided to put it about that everything had been dropped and this was largely taken up by the leftie press and clowns like John Pilger doesn't make it fact.

[auldhippy]

Feb 26, 2011 10:38:52 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

But on Saturday, as international media outlets were beginning to pick up the story, Eva Finne, Sweden's chief prosecutor, announced that Assange was no longer wanted.

"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," the chief prosecutor said, but declined to go into any more details.

As I said, she decided his actions constituted sexual assault not rape and withdrew the warrant for his arrest for rape. he meanwhile had been released on a promise to return for a police interview, a promise he decided not to keep.

The fact that Mark Stephens his solicitor decided to put it about that everything had been dropped and this was largely taken up by the leftie press and clowns like John Pilger doesn't make it fact.

she decided his actions constituted sexual assault not rape

Not from any link so far provided, she declined to give more details!