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Post by flatandy on Feb 24, 2011 12:35:20 GMT
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange should be extradited to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations, a judge has ruled. At Belmarsh Magistrates' Court in south London, District Judge Howard Riddle said the extradition would not breach Mr Assange's human rights. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12564865 |
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Post by KrispyKoala on Feb 24, 2011 12:40:44 GMT
It just flashed across our TV News channel earlier tonight. Now things should get interesting, The Aussie Govt has vowed to help him any way they can.
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Post by auldhippy on Feb 24, 2011 12:48:22 GMT
He didn't "rape" anyone. The women only came forward because he didn't get himself checked for STDs after the event. It's not a crime anywhere else.
The Swedish prosecutors have already dropped this once and it's only because a politician sympathetic to the US has gotten involved as a launch for his career.
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Post by Repat Van on Feb 24, 2011 12:50:17 GMT
"The women only came forward because he didn't get himself checked for STDs after the event. It's not a crime anywhere else."
Eh?
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 12:51:47 GMT
I hope he gets done for something. Slimy self-important weasel.
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Post by KrispyKoala on Feb 24, 2011 12:55:34 GMT
He's broken no Australian laws, so therefore, our govt will asisst him.
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Post by auldhippy on Feb 24, 2011 12:56:09 GMT
"The women only came forward because he didn't get himself checked for STDs after the event. It's not a crime anywhere else." Eh? The women were not claiming rape and it is only in Sweden that this is a crime. |
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 12:56:54 GMT
A country's supposed to assist its citizens detained abroad even if they have committed a crime, surely? To say he has or hasn't before any trial is to prejudge the situation.
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Post by Repat Van on Feb 24, 2011 13:03:03 GMT
"The women only came forward because he didn't get himself checked for STDs after the event. It's not a crime anywhere else." Eh? The women were not claiming rape and it is only in Sweden that this is a crime. I am completely confused. On the link it says sexual assault and rape are the charges against him. I haven't been following particularly closely. What are you saying he has actually been accused of, not going for an STD check? |
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 13:06:48 GMT
It is a weird allegation. I think one of the women consented the night before on the basis that he wore a condom. He then 'woke her up' without a condom, which he didn't have consent for.
Dunno about the other charge.
But hope he gets done whatever. Guy's a cock. Spilling everyone else's private communications and then gets uppity at the slightest interest in his own affairs. Getting up from TV interviews ripping his mic off at the merest mention of anything to do with him personally. He chose to become a figurehead for Wikileaks, sought the limelight, then couldn't handle it poor lamb.
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Post by KrispyKoala on Feb 24, 2011 13:22:33 GMT
He also dumped on several Aussie politicians, including our current and former PM's. It's called freedom of speech.
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Post by auldhippy on Feb 24, 2011 13:26:54 GMT
The women were not claiming rape and it is only in Sweden that this is a crime. I am completely confused. On the link it says sexual assault and rape are the charges against him. I haven't been following particularly closely. What are you saying he has actually been accused of, not going for an STD check? My understanding from previous reporting is that there was no rape, these were groupies who met and agreed to sex within days of meeting Assange. On one occasion a condom brioke and on another the woman acquiesed to sex without a condom after initially objecting. Originally there was no suggestion of rape. Sweden's rape laws have several catagories, this is in the minor catagory and involves sexual partners having the right to be checked for STDs after the event of unprotected sex. It is not an offence that would normally attract incarceration. Assange's defence is that he has been charged with nothing and is only wanted for questioning which apparantly is an abuse of the international arrest warrant. As I said Sweedish prosecutors have already dropped this once. |
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 13:28:35 GMT
"this is in the minor catagory and involves sexual partners having the right to be checked for STDs after the event of unprotected sex"
I'm not sure that this is in fact the case. Have you got a link?
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Post by Repat Van on Feb 24, 2011 13:30:21 GMT
"Sweden's rape laws have several catagories, this is in the minor catagory and involves sexual partners having the right to be checked for STDs after the event of unprotected sex."
My head hurts. The sex partners still had the right to be checked for STDs didn't they? <Goes off to research>
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 13:37:33 GMT
As I thought, it's bollox that it's a criminal offence for a sexual partner to not co0mply with a request for STDs. What a surprise! OH doesn't know what he's talking about.
Woman A - unlawful coercion allegation, that Assange broke condom deliberately and held her down with his weight.
Woman B - allegation that Assange had non-consensual sex with her when she was asleep.
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Post by hammerhead on Feb 24, 2011 13:49:52 GMT
A country's supposed to assist its citizens detained abroad even if they have committed a crime, surely? To say he has or hasn't before any trial is to prejudge the situation. Says the guy who hopes he gets done for something  |
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 13:56:15 GMT
That's entirely personal. Saying states help their citizens detained abroad regardless of guilt is uncontroversial and fact (well, western antions anyway)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 13:56:55 GMT
Woman B - allegation that Assange had non-consensual sex with her when she was asleep.
I had no idea he was married.
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Post by auldhippy on Feb 24, 2011 14:02:51 GMT
The women were not claiming rape and it is only in Sweden that this is a crime. I am completely confused. On the link it says sexual assault and rape are the charges against him. I haven't been following particularly closely. What are you saying he has actually been accused of, not going for an STD check? Yes, with the caveat that was the scenario when last I read up on it. |
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Post by noam on Feb 24, 2011 14:05:57 GMT
You never read it is a crime in Sweden not to agree to have an STD test. Pribably because it isn't.
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