Staying Fit!

[yord]

end of my arse , you just hit the ban button whenever you like. The only helpfull piece of advice this poor sod has got is to get the hell out of it. It is no ones fault that her mother has had a stroke ,and depending on the severity of that stroke there is sweet feck all that she can probably do except prolong her mothers life, and at what cost to her mother and herself ? Yeah , why not feck up both lives.
Your sorry ? sorry for what ? You feel empathy, big deal , Im certain thats helping her loads. I dont give a feck about her or her mother and the only help I can suggest is either pray for a quick end or get the feck out of there. You feel sorry ? then offer her help or advice, not just oh dear Im sorry, you get your arse down there and help clean up the vomit , your wondering what to do with your cash your collecting, well heres a fecking great cause for it.

[kubik8]

"And just wtf do you do, apologize profusely to someone you havn't a clue about for their mother's misfortune who you also don't know and hope they take comfort in knowing you care "

What you do is shut up. You don't need to 'hope' anything.

Who, in a time of distress, wishes or needs to hear that soon they'll be praying for the death of the one they're worried about? I do agree with you, having seen my grandfather become a pitiful wreck of a man after a series of strokes. The last time I saw him, was the only time I ever saw him cry. He knew what he'd become, and knew he'd never recover. A tiny bit of coherence in a terminally fecked-up brain.

Hardly constructive to be told that soon I'd be praying for his death, it was a long time before I figured out he was doing exactly that.

I don't get the bit about stirring things up. Who is there to stir? Hardly anyone posts here.

[yord]

Look I dont give a feck. If anyone wants post up any crap they like up its fine by me and if I feel like answering it thats also fine by me. If you dont like it then feck off. If the moderators dont like it they can press the ban button which is also fine by me . What isnt fine is you telling me this isnt the time or that Im bang out of order when youve got feck all to say. This is the time to say it and not be spouting some self rightous bullshit and pointing some hollier than tho finger at anyone that does.

[kubik8]

I have, clearly, got as much to say as you. Just count the words.

There is nothing self-righteous here. My opinion is that being told you'll soon be praying for your mother's death after she's just had a stroke, is simply not constructive. It may be true, but who is capable of immediately learning lessons after such a shock?

If you are, fine. But you speak for no-one but yourself, and are arrogant in the extreme by assuming it's 'the time to say it' to anyone else.

And you do give a feck. You 'sound' genuinely angry.

[pinxminx]

Please listen.
I am so sorry to have caused all this confusion within this site.
I really shouldn't have expressed myself like that last night, I was upset and I thought I was talking to friends. I was only talking out loud, I wasn't looking for people to feel sorry for me. It's just the way I am.
I didn't see Yord's response last night, I had already gone to bed, so upset in a stoopid mode. I woke up this morning and read his response, and at first, it made me ashamed, that's why I deleted my post's.
I've thought about what he said all day and the more I think about it - it's helped me. I was feeling sorry for myself last night, not my mother! That's terrible.
But, I promise, I'm not here to cause trouble. I'm a real person, going through real life crap at the moment.
I'm telling you the truth.
I'm a real truthfull person, Yords way of dealing with things, is kinda different than mine, but I think his intentions were good.
And I respect that.
I had joked with him before with Feral, but I honestly thought that they would see that as a joke?
Because it was.
I thought it was funny at the time. My sense of humour is off limits at the mo.
Anyway, I hope this clears things up.

[pinxminx]

Thanx for everyone that has got involved.
Kubik and Sushimo.
Please don't fall out over me.
But thanx so much for your support.
She's a little better today.
They have found out what's wrong, her left artery in her neck is fuzzed up, they can't put a stint in, can't even get a needle in, it's too narrow.
The only option is to operate and do it that way.
The doctors went round and told her today how serious her condition was, she's been really lethargic today and very un-responsive.
Anyway, we had a good time, I was there this evening for a few hours, washed and dressed her and applied her favourite moisteruriser.
She looked lovely before I left her tonight.

[yord]

when do you say it then hammer ? After some poor sod cant take another day ? " awwww never mind pet we'r sorry but you coped so well" Yeah fecking right they did. Or do you turn round and whisper " well she was living with her mother you know but fecked off the minute that happened."

[pinxminx]

It's only a matter of time.
But yeah Yord!
Your right!
We have all got it coming.
Doesn't make it any easier though.
I'm sorry if I upset you though.

[kubik8]

"I was feeling sorry for myself last night, not my mother! That's terrible."

No, that's normal. Every emotion you have is essentially about you. You're selfish and scared about your little world being turned upside-down.

Nothing wrong with that. It's good to recognize it (imho).

Found out today my auntie just died after a stroke. I'm glad she went quickly.

[yord]

Noo your right , you just keep your mouth shut and say feck all and thank god it isnt you and let the poor bastard get on with it. 2 lives f**k*d coz no wants to know apart from "oh we'r sorry " and no one to say hey just get the f**k out there now

[pinxminx]

I've never been that angry Yord!
I'm sad at the moment, more sadder than you can ever imagine! I'm not angry.

[kubik8]

"Please don't fall out over me."

Chill, pinxminx. We've been shouting at each other for nearly a decade :-)

[pinxminx]

Ok
Sorry
Gudnight
xxx

[kubik8]

"when do you say it then hammer ? "

After the the shock of having a parent who once cared for you, becoming a burden on you, has passed. Not during.

[yord]

Im not angry at all and neither care if you are the concerned carer, or just some self centered sod that had to mop a bit spew up when you would have prefered to be doing other things.
Theres thousands out there that dont have that luxury of choice and I dont give a feck about them either.What I do care about is the fecking hypocracy surrounding these senarios and ohhhhhhhhhh god you cant say that attitudes, that f**k up more than the victims life

[yord]

"After the the shock of having a parent who once cared for you, becoming a burden on you, has passed. Not during."

ah right , you just wait until they end up hating them ? Or are you so naive to think that that nevers happens

[yord]

or when they start begging the doctor to finish them off coz they just dont have the bottle to do it themselves ?

[yord]

or when they turn their back and bung them in some home so they no longer see it and let some other sap take the problems

[yord]

and of course that other sap isnt going to put the poor fuckers out of their misery and why should they. Christ if theres one thing in this world we should be ashamed of it is this and it goes on daily

[kubik8]

Do you really think I'm naive Yord? Given I pretty much agree with your sentiments, that seems odd.

The inevitable meaningless end and the misery it entails... I just don't think when someone has to deal with a parent who's suffered a stroke, it is any way constructive to immediately hit them with what's to come.

How does it benefit them to be informed? Humans aren't terribly good at going beyond what they have to deal with at the time (not surprising as being mortal, the infinity of death is by definition incomprehensible).