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Post by mids on Aug 3, 2015 14:12:24 GMT
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Post by eit on Aug 3, 2015 14:24:33 GMT
Some very dark stories have surfaced about the former Conservative Prime Minister. i just hope for the sake of the nation these stories are not true.
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Post by nobody on Aug 3, 2015 14:34:06 GMT
How will it harm the nation, he's been dead ten years
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Post by eit on Aug 3, 2015 14:40:16 GMT
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Post by eit on Aug 3, 2015 16:39:27 GMT
Michael Shrimpton says that Prime Minister Heath (1916-2005) was a pedophile who murdered his young boy victims or had others do it, often by throwing them into the sea after Heath had abused them on his yacht.
The record-breaking pedophile and BBC 'star' Jimmy Savile supplied boys for Heath - many of them from the Jersey children's home, Haut de la Garenne, with the support of those who ran the home.
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Post by nobody on Aug 3, 2015 17:03:50 GMT
Shrimpton is a fantasist who is facing a jail term.
He's awaiting psychiatric assessment before sentencing.
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Post by auldhippy on Aug 3, 2015 17:30:27 GMT
Saw Morning Cloud sink in St Katherine's bay Jersey, how I laughed.
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Post by mids on Aug 3, 2015 17:53:41 GMT
Was it weighed down by the bodies of young boys?
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 3, 2015 21:08:48 GMT
It seems slightly odd when plod starts calling for "victims" to come forward before they have established if a crime has been committed. You sort of think a victim reports a crime, plod investigates, not plod investigates and then asks for victims.
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Post by mids on Aug 3, 2015 21:29:14 GMT
Yeah the whole historic abuse thing is a bit dodgy at times.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 3, 2015 21:35:32 GMT
Although not as dodgy as Ted Heath or Cyril Smith or Leon Britton...
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Post by eit on Aug 4, 2015 3:18:30 GMT
Just to balance things up, here is some shite about Mandleson and Blair. They're all in it toegther, apparently.... Mandy likes hampsters
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Post by eit on Aug 4, 2015 7:17:55 GMT
Edward Heath 'raped 12 year-old boy at Mayfair flatA man has claimed he was raped by Sir Edward Heath when he was 12, as police launch an inquiry into the alleged "cover-up" of child sex abuse allegations levelled at the former Prime Minister. In an interview with The Mirror, the alleged victim, now in his 60s, claimed he was sexually assaulted by Sir Edward in his Mayfair flat in 1961 after being picked up while hitchhiking. The boy, who claimed to have been abused throughout his childhood by his father and his paedophile friends, said Sir Edward picked him up along the A2 road in north Kent as he hitched a lift. He claimed to have gone back to an apartment in Park Lane, London where he was raped. It was not until 1965 that he says he realised who his alleged abuser was, recognising him from a picture in a newspaper in which Sir Edward was standing beside Margaret Thatcher.
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Post by eit on Aug 4, 2015 11:13:07 GMT
Tory shame
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Post by wetkingcanute on Aug 4, 2015 15:29:41 GMT
OK - as a hostage to fortune - I will state 'ere n now that I recon they will find Ted Heath completely innocent.
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Post by mids on Aug 4, 2015 15:51:13 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of mealy-mouthing over it wkc. Obviously he can't stand trial (a big advantage here) but there'll be some sort of report that will heavily imply that he probably did it without there being much actual evidence because, well, dibble aren't great at spotting abuse when it's actually happening (see Rotherham etc) so they'll want to get all virtue signally with an easy target like Heath. Dead. A Tory. Not many friends left. A bit of an open goal.
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Post by voice on Aug 4, 2015 17:46:01 GMT
its next to impossible to get evidence in these cases when it happened last month never mind 50 years back, and while its always been assumed he was gay, its a bit dodgy when plot are asking for people to tell em if he raped em, you are always going to get a few come forward, but how the hell can they tell the genuine ones from the attention seekers?
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Post by flatandy on Aug 4, 2015 18:01:13 GMT
There was always the assumption in the British media that because someone was unmarried they must be gay, and because they were gay they must be a peeeeeedo sex pest. It was very 1970s.
But I always felt that the suspicion and innuendo about Heath was based on that kind of logic, and wouldn't be surprised if these accusations came from the innuendo of the past.
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Post by lala on Aug 4, 2015 18:21:31 GMT
If a even left-wing wet Tory is a paedophile child murderer, can you imagine how evil the likes of Tebbit and Thatch must has been?
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Post by sweet soul on Aug 4, 2015 18:22:33 GMT
Four police forces have confirmed they are investigating claims of child sex abuse against the former prime minister Sir Edward Heath. Jersey Police said Sir Edward was a subject in its investigation into historical child sex abuse allegations on the island after claims were made that he would take children from care homes for a ride in his yacht. Wiltshire Police has disclosed it has received a number of calls to a helpline it set up appealing for potential victims and witnesses to come forward. Kent Police has also received a report of a sexual assault having been committed in East Kent in the 1960s by a complainant naming Sir Edward in connection with the allegation. Detectives are making initial inquiries and will get a full account of the complainant's story. A fourth force, the Metropolitan Police, are also reportedly looking into reported accusations by a 65-year-old, who claimed he had been raped at the age of 12 by Sir Edward. It has also been claimed the politician was seen by a Met Police detective going into a property in north London where boys were being abused in the 1970s. The first allegation against Sir Edward emerged on Monday when Wiltshire Police disclosed the force was being investigated for failing to properly handle an apparent allegation made against the politician in the 1990s. Lord Armstrong of Ilminster, Sir Edward's former principle private secretary, told Sky News the allegations were "absolute nonsense". But since then further details of claims have emerged including those on Jersey. In a statement, Jersey Police said: "Sir Edward Heath does feature as part of Operation Whistle, currently investigating historical allegations of abuse in Jersey." The force says the allegations of abuse involve 13 "people of public prominence". Many of the claims centre on the Haut de la Garenne children's home, which closed in 1986 and was said to have been "frequented" by Jimmy Savile, who has been accused of abusing youngsters there. US Newsweek reporter Leah Goodman has claimed she was told of allegations against Sir Edward on Jersey in 2011 but was then thrown out of the UK for investigating them. She told Sky News: "(Police officers investigating claims at the children's home) had heard the rumours and I know a few of the senior members of the police believed that (Heath) was at it. "The yachting culture had long been known for bringing boys and other children out on boats into international waters...murky legalities...it was a place where it was understood people couldn't escape. I know Edward Heath was involved in the yachting culture on the island." Her disclosure came as it was revealed a 65-year-old man claimed he was raped by the then MP for Bexley at a Mayfair flat in 1961 but was dismissed as a "liar and fantasist" when he reported the alleged assault. The man says he was picked up by Sir Edward on the A2 in north Kent as he hitched a lift and was taken back to the Park Lane apartment and raped. Campaigning Labour MP Tom Watson confirmed he had heard allegations against Sir Edward and passed them to police. He said: "I received information in 2012 concerning allegations of child abuse carried out by Edward Heath and a separate claim concerning Heath was made to me subsequently. "I passed them both to the police, who have confirmed to me that at least one of those allegations is being investigated and taken seriously." Mr Watson has called for a central child sex abuse investigation unit for the country to be set up to speed up investigations. Sir Edward, who was PM for four years in the 1970s, is the highest-profile figure to be named in historical abuse allegations against prominent figures. The independent inquiry into claims public bodies failed to act or attempted to cover up claims against senior politicians has been told by David Cameron there are no limits to their investigations and officers should "go as high as they like". The Sir Edward Heath Charitable Foundation said: "We welcome the investigation by Wiltshire Police, which we wholeheartedly believe will clear Sir Edward's name and we will co-operate fully with the police in their inquiries." Sir Edward, who led the Conservative government between 1970 and 1974, never married and kept his private life under wraps. He died at his home in Salisbury aged 89 in July 2005. :: The NSPCC helpline for the Edward Heath inquiry is 0808 800 5000. news.sky.com/story/1530217/ted-heath-investigated-over-child-sex-in-jersey
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