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Post by flatandy on Oct 7, 2019 17:20:08 GMT
Shocking stuff from Trump today, basically inviting Turkey to invade northern Syria to get rid of the Kurds. This is great for Assad, Putin and Erdogan, who really aren't the kinds of people the US should be helping. It totally and utterly fucks over the US's only allies in the region - the Kurds - who've fought with the US and against Islamist and Baathist oppression for decades. Who the US promised to protect provided they disarmed. It looks like a really, really grim and rotten betrayal. If anybody did trust the US as an ally in the past, this'll change that.
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Post by wetkingcanute on Oct 7, 2019 17:52:01 GMT
I totally agree with you Andy.
This is ...well I was going to say Shocking - but then I realised, of course, it was Trump.
The Kurds really do get fcuked by everyone.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 7, 2019 18:09:01 GMT
Tell that to the Armenians.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 18:11:16 GMT
Indeed. First acknowledged 'genocide'.
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Post by flatandy on Oct 7, 2019 18:11:36 GMT
What Armenians? There never were any Armenians...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 18:14:28 GMT
Link?
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Post by flatandy on Oct 7, 2019 18:16:40 GMT
wwww.ataturkey.turkey.com
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Post by hammerhead on Oct 7, 2019 18:16:40 GMT
Heh, you can't link to nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 18:23:51 GMT
There used to be Armenians.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 7, 2019 18:41:07 GMT
wwww.ataturkey.turkey.com Gimp. Ataturk. Ataturkey was a bloke who was quite like Kemal, but not quite the same thing.
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Post by flatandy on Oct 7, 2019 18:43:55 GMT
There used to be Armenians. Not according to the Turks. And in about 10 years time there'll never have been any Kurds either.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 7, 2019 20:03:52 GMT
Indeed. First acknowledged 'genocide'. Bloody anti-semite. There has only ever been one.
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Post by wetkingcanute on Oct 7, 2019 21:10:26 GMT
no baloo -that's no fair - or true. The Jews have never said that their genocide was the only one.
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Post by mids on Oct 7, 2019 21:35:58 GMT
Yeah that's the Palestinians.
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Post by voice on Oct 7, 2019 22:07:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 6:30:43 GMT
I'm now a moron - I've joined voice's gang.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 8, 2019 6:59:51 GMT
no baloo -that's no fair - or true. The Jews have never said that their genocide was the only one. People might not have said it, but that's certainly the impression you get. See International Genocide Day: it used to be just that. Not now, it's largely an annual jamboree of Holocaust PR and lobbying on behalf of special interests. That's manifestly obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 7:06:49 GMT
We had rucks with Doc Cruel about this for months on the old News General. The Armenian massacre was horrendous, a systematic cold-blooded genocide carried out by both Turks and Kurds. The word was invented as a result of this. Unbelievably horrible what people do to each other.
Worse, by way of numbers, was Stalin's little enterprise. Australian Aborigines. American Aborigines.
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Post by mids on Oct 8, 2019 7:08:48 GMT
Doc Cruel, hah! The old days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 7:10:54 GMT
We were many then.
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