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Post by wetkingcanute on Oct 8, 2019 8:12:23 GMT
We had rucks with Doc Cruel about this for months on the old News General. The Armenian massacre was horrendous, a systematic cold-blooded genocide carried out by both Turks and Kurds. The word was invented as a result of this. Unbelievably horrible what people do to each other.
Worse, by way of numbers, was Stalin's little enterprise. Australian Aborigines. American Aborigines.
The above is true. The terrible thing is that it is mostly forgotten.
Baloo gets slightly miffed that the Jews try to not forget what happened to them...or allow it to be forgotten.
But to quote Baloo he has, in the past, referred to this as "The Holocaust Industry".
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 8, 2019 8:22:52 GMT
Miffed? Nah. Just calling it out for what it is. Eyes wide open. Critical faculty engaged. No vested interest or romantic self-delusion.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 8, 2019 8:47:35 GMT
Noam Chomsky on the subject: "QUESTION: What dimension does the Holocaust play in this equation? Is it manipulated by the Israeli state to promote its own interests? CHOMSKY: It’s very consciously manipulated. I mean, it’s quite certainly real, there’s no question about that, but it is also undoubted that they manipulate it. In fact, they say so. For example, in the Jerusalem Post, in English so you can read it, their Washington correspondent Wolf Blitzer, I don’t recall the exact date, but after one of the big Holocaust memorial meetings in Washington he wrote an article in the Jerusalem Post in which he said it was a great success." chomsky.info/dissent01/Bloody Anglicans!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 9:50:43 GMT
They've been showing a lot of footage of the deportation of Jews here during WWII. By way of apology I suppose. It really is heart-rending and I don't watch it any more.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 8, 2019 10:59:11 GMT
The French? They do love a bit of nostalgia. A trip down memory lane to cheer themselves up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 16:58:20 GMT
Hardly. But you're right on the nostalgia front - the repeats on telly are incroyable. But the old war footage is amazing; it seems like nothing much changed between 1945 and the beginning of the 70s - cobbled streets, Gauloises, old men in berets and blues. Shame it's all changed.
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 15:36:36 GMT
Massive Turkish offensive rolling into Northern Syria. Wont be long before the next iteration of AQ or IS this time including a large number of Kurds.
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Post by whitewine on Oct 9, 2019 15:40:38 GMT
The whole thing is a total mess. LINK
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 16:13:18 GMT
Looking like Turkey is wanting to settle over 2 million Arab Syrians in Kurdish Syria as an attempt to change the population balance.
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 16:46:20 GMT
The deafening silence from the White House is telling
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Post by jimboky on Oct 9, 2019 17:01:38 GMT
The deafening silence from the White House is telling
really? You are talking about Trump, right? when did he ever silent? you must have him confused with someone else,,, Obama maybe
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 17:22:41 GMT
so, where is his response then, this has been going on for hours and not a peep, and as you say when he ever silent, some minor sleb' mentions his tiny hands and within 30 secs he's all over twitter denouncing it and squawking like a dropped baby, yet Turkey invading, what was until 2 days ago a US Allie, nothing.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 9, 2019 17:39:53 GMT
Turkey using US jets to bomb our own allies, courtesy of an American president. What a f**k**g disgrace.
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 17:42:13 GMT
indeed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 17:47:27 GMT
Bit odd I must say
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Post by whitewine on Oct 9, 2019 18:34:13 GMT
No, not really, America is going through a recession at the moment , and what better than selling arms and so on to fighting force(Turkey) to help their economy.
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Post by flatandy on Oct 9, 2019 18:52:45 GMT
America is going through a recession at the moment ? I have doubts about the sustainability of the current economics, but we're definitely not in recession yet.
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Post by flatandy on Oct 9, 2019 18:54:38 GMT
Anyway, this is exactly what Trump planned and invited the Turks to do with his call to the fascist Erdogan the other day.
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Post by whitewine on Oct 9, 2019 18:56:42 GMT
Shall I rephrase that, America is facing a recession, still, the whole thing stinks.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 9, 2019 19:09:57 GMT
Here's how Edrogan deals with mere protesters, sends his goons to beat the crap out of them. This was in Washington D.C.
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