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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 9, 2019 20:26:51 GMT
Dunno what to make of this yet. Is it the natural end of a sort of gentlemens' agreement? The end of an uneasy truce? A return to business as usual?
A part of me wonder if this is cynical theatre which suits all sides.
On another note, I wonder if the US ever supplied the Kurds with ManPADS. Perhaps they agreed not to and that the US would take care of air defence over joint ops.
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 21:38:16 GMT
What ever kit the yanks sold em they'll be no match for the Turks, and by greenlighting this Invasion Trump knows the Kurds are gonna get slaughtered.
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 21:51:26 GMT
Though makes you wonder how much effort the Kurds are now going to expend on keeping the 40k plus IS fighters penned up the camps they control given how badly the US has betrayed them
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Post by flatandy on Oct 9, 2019 23:18:04 GMT
f**k me...
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Post by voice on Oct 9, 2019 23:36:56 GMT
I take it that's the imbeciles responce
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Post by flatandy on Oct 9, 2019 23:39:27 GMT
Nobody else garbles their syntax quite like that.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 9, 2019 23:49:24 GMT
He knows as much about history as a 2-year old.
Today a member of the press asked him about the possibility of ISIS escapees and he replied "Well, they're going to be escaping to Europe."
You're welcome.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 10, 2019 5:47:54 GMT
Though makes you wonder how much effort the Kurds are now going to expend on keeping the 40k plus IS fighters penned up the camps they control given how badly the US has betrayed them With a bit of luck, they'll just shoot 'em out of hand. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 10, 2019 5:49:31 GMT
What ever kit the yanks sold em they'll be no match for the Turks, and by greenlighting this Invasion Trump knows the Kurds are gonna get slaughtered. Not sure any of that stands scrutiny. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 6:19:48 GMT
W e had rucks with Doc Cruel about this for months on the old News General. The Armenian massacre was horrendous, a systematic cold-blooded genocide carried out by both Turks and Kurds. The word was invented as a result of this. Unbelievably horrible what people do to each other.
Worse, by way of numbers, was Stalin's little enterprise. Australian Aborigines. American Aborigines.The above is true. The terrible thing is that it is mostly forgotten. Baloo gets slightly miffed that the Jews try to not forget what happened to them...or allow it to be forgotten. But to quote Baloo he has, in the past, referred to this as "The Holocaust Industry". I do think he has a point actually; not sure whether it defeats the issue, continually referring to it, turning it into an industry. The constant risk (of anti-semitism/accusations of) when trying to discuss the more controversial aspects is also tedious and counter-productive. |
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Post by rick49 on Oct 10, 2019 12:20:18 GMT
The left didn't give a rats butt about the Kurds in Iraq. The left wanted U.S. troops out of Iraq immediately, the Kurds be damned. Now, suddenly, the left "cares" about the Kurds and is weeping crocodile tears. What happened to the lefts opposition to Forever Wars? Seems to have suddenly evaporated.
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Post by rick49 on Oct 10, 2019 13:32:30 GMT
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Post by rick49 on Oct 10, 2019 13:48:23 GMT
They (middle east) have been slaughtering each other since forever. It's their greatest love. The U.S. could keep troops there for 100, 500, 1000 years and absolutely nothing would change. Nothing. All of a sudden the left has spun on a dime and want the U.S. to be the worlds policeman. They want Forever Wars. The lefts faux outrage is nothing but politics. If this had been ordered by Obama instead of Trump, the left would be demanding a Nobel prize for him.
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Post by flatandy on Oct 10, 2019 13:53:01 GMT
That's patently not true - the small US presence there, and the explicit protection guarantee from the US that the US would look after its allies, was removed earlier in the week and within a couple of days the Turks had started on their latest genocide. A guarantee, incidentally, that involved the US encouraging the Kurds to disarm...
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Post by rick49 on Oct 10, 2019 14:00:22 GMT
No, not really, America is going through a recession at the moment We are? Dang. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 16:12:58 GMT
I wonder if Trump's aware that he's condemning hundreds, possibly thousands of Kurdish people to rape, torture and murder.
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Post by voice on Oct 10, 2019 16:52:33 GMT
Even if he was, doubt he cares. Be interesting to see if he vetos or holds up the sanctions the house and Senate are going to put on Turkey.
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Post by perrykneeham on Oct 10, 2019 16:58:07 GMT
Still waiting to see what the end game is here: Turkey doesn't really want another buffer to police, the Kurds will always be around and the land belongs to Syria anyway.
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Post by voice on Oct 10, 2019 17:05:05 GMT
They say they want to settle 2 million Syrian refugees, and let others displaced to elsewhere settle there as well, and as most of these are Arab Syrians rather than Kurds it would significantly change the population make up of this boarder region.
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Post by flatandy on Oct 10, 2019 17:20:53 GMT
the Kurds will always be around ... Just like the Armenians in the same area. |
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