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Post by voice on Jun 14, 2017 14:19:27 GMT
Lots missing, including quite a few kids, makes you wonder what happened to the sprinkler system, if the refurbished was so recent why the hell wasn't one put it, no alarm system either. Someone gonna get a right kicking over this.
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Post by Whiterum on Jun 14, 2017 14:23:35 GMT
I saw a headline on DM that it didn't even have fire alarm? The whole place has been a deathtrap for years, Jim, residents have been complaining about it for quite some time. |
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Post by jimboky on Jun 14, 2017 14:30:43 GMT
Fire alarms didn't go off, sprinklers failed and residents were told to 'stay put' inside their flats, survivors of the inferno in the 'third world' tower block said today. Several people have been confirmed dead and more are missing following the fire at Grenfell Tower in north Kensington overnight, which left a further 50 people in hospital. Survivors have described how the building's fire alarms were not working at all - and sprinklers also failed. And it has emerged that the block's residents were told to 'stay put' in their flats in case of the fires, and the only stairwell used in the evacuation may have been blocked. Residents have said they were only alerted to the fire by neighbours banging on doors or phone calls from people living in the area who saw the tower was alight. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4602436/No-sprinklers-fire-alarm-residents-stay-INSIDE.html#ixzz4jzFfPzF3Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook not working is different then not there, don't know who to believe |
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Post by Whiterum on Jun 14, 2017 14:39:56 GMT
'The richest borough, but the most heartless'Right down at street level there is anger from people waiting for news of their family, or those of friends. Samy Radwan and Mehdi Saif, both 19, are propped up against an ambulance - here to support a mate whose cousin, one of a family of five, is missing.  They see a link between what's happened and cuts in public spending. They point to the standard of council housing, and ask why money was spent on the facade of something - rather than making sure it had a second staircase, sprinklers, and loud alarms. Kensington and Chelsea is, they say, the "richest borough, but the most heartless". They voted for Labour in the general election which saw the Tories lose this seat. Residents raised concerns for a long time, they say, and now look... As to the future fallout? Mehdi says: "It's hard to be optimistic when you are the last priority of anyone else." LINK
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Post by voice on Jun 14, 2017 16:13:27 GMT
12 dead now, expecting more as they search the building
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Post by voice on Jun 14, 2017 16:32:11 GMT
its also not a council run building, but managed by a private company that was cited by the London fire Service last year for safety concerns at several of its buildings.
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Post by mids on Jun 14, 2017 17:40:33 GMT
Bloody awful.
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Post by nobody on Jun 14, 2017 17:52:54 GMT
I think it's Council run.
The action committe for the building raised concerns over many safety aspects, one tenant was even threatened and told to shut up
Id hazard a guess at corruption on huge scale here between contractors and Landlord
If it is the case, then the people responsible should be jailed.
(it is managed on behalf of Kensington and Chelsea Council)
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Post by mids on Jun 14, 2017 19:12:00 GMT
Is it too soon to make political capital out of it?
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 14, 2017 19:18:02 GMT
Is it too soon to make political capital out of it? Did wonder if you'd post a "Labour's Kensington" gag. |
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Post by voice on Jun 14, 2017 19:18:32 GMT
'managed of behalf of' means its a private company doing the managing
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Post by mids on Jun 14, 2017 19:22:34 GMT
I think it's the Tories' Kensington.
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Post by jimboky on Jun 14, 2017 19:28:30 GMT
I doubt that the managing company gets final say over fire alarm/ sprinkler system installation, would think they would mostly collect rent and deal with day to day issues,
in the private world the company would send the insurance company any money saved over not having up-to-date fire alarm/sprinkler system, unless you are a slum lord and don't bother with insurance,
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Post by unclejunior on Jun 14, 2017 19:59:05 GMT
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Post by mids on Jun 14, 2017 20:00:22 GMT
He's scum, isn't he?
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Post by nobody on Jun 14, 2017 20:23:27 GMT
'managed of behalf of' means its a private company doing the managing Owned by Kensington and Chelsea, managed by a private company. It's newspeak for , you maximise profits for us, and we'll share it out. |
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Post by nobody on Jun 14, 2017 20:24:29 GMT
Is it too soon to make political capital out of it? Corbyn replied to you didn't he? What a tw@ |
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Post by Repat Van on Jun 14, 2017 20:59:28 GMT
I think it's the Tories' Kensington. Falls over. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jun 14, 2017 21:00:52 GMT
I doubt that the managing company gets final say over fire alarm/ sprinkler system installation, would think they would mostly collect rent and deal with day to day issues, in the private world the company would send the insurance company any money saved over not having up-to-date fire alarm/sprinkler system, unless you are a slum lord and don't bother with insurance, I thought there were laws about this and the managing company would also be in breach of them if they noticed the building was not up to date with fire safety requirements and did nothing. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jun 14, 2017 21:07:17 GMT
'managed of behalf of' means its a private company doing the managing Oh, that's fine then. Like your outsourced NHS care for the learning difficults. |
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