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Post by flatandy on Apr 15, 2021 17:48:16 GMT
The first fcuk up was the Anglo-Afghan War also known by the British as the Disaster in Afghanistan. It was fought between the British Empire and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1839 to 1842. Incidentally Sherlock Holmes meets Doctor Watson when he's just returned from this war. The second fcuk up was the Russian invasion on 24th December 1979 - they staggered on till the got out in Feb 1989. and then all the recent fcuk ups. Where in the new TV series of the 'modern' Sherlock Holmes ~ he meets Watson on his recent return from Afghanistan. I feel like I say this most weeks on here, but you all should read the fantastic "Return Of A King" by William Dalrymple. You should probably read all his books, actually. But this is the one about Afghanistan. |
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Post by rick49 on Apr 16, 2021 1:24:31 GMT
putin orders beijing joe to grovel,,,the big guy says how much? "Biden Just Blinked Big Time" "But in the meantime, as the NY Post notes, Biden said he would be sending two destroyers to the Black Sea to deliver a message to Putin about not making moves on Ukraine, after Russia had massed thousands of troops on their border with Ukraine." "Putin warned the U.S. to stay away “for their own good.” What did Biden do then? He blinked and decided not to send the ships, an incredibly weak move, making it look like he was caving to Putin, perhaps the worst possible thing he could do. Putin was putting him to the test and he failed it badly." "Now Putin, believing Biden to be all talk and no action, just announced he’s going to close the Kerch Strait, beginning next week until October to block any foreign warships out, including the United States. So if we wanted to help Ukraine through that avenue, now we can’t. An exceedingly bad move by Biden." redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04/15/biden-just-blinked-big-time-and-putin-already-taking-advantage-of-it-n361980 |
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Post by ootlg on Apr 16, 2021 6:37:44 GMT
The first fcuk up was the Anglo-Afghan War also known by the British as the Disaster in Afghanistan. It was fought between the British Empire and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1839 to 1842. Incidentally Sherlock Holmes meets Doctor Watson when he's just returned from this war. The second fcuk up was the Russian invasion on 24th December 1979 - they staggered on till the got out in Feb 1989. and then all the recent fcuk ups. Where in the new TV series of the 'modern' Sherlock Holmes ~ he meets Watson on his recent return from Afghanistan. I feel like I say this most weeks on here, but you all should read the fantastic "Return Of A King" by William Dalrymple. You should probably read all his books, actually. But this is the one about Afghanistan. Brilliant writer of middle eastern history. Eminently readable. |
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Post by ootlg on Apr 16, 2021 6:45:23 GMT
putin orders beijing joe to grovel,,,the big guy says how much? "Biden Just Blinked Big Time" "But in the meantime, as the NY Post notes, Biden said he would be sending two destroyers to the Black Sea to deliver a message to Putin about not making moves on Ukraine, after Russia had massed thousands of troops on their border with Ukraine." "Putin warned the U.S. to stay away “for their own good.” What did Biden do then? He blinked and decided not to send the ships, an incredibly weak move, making it look like he was caving to Putin, perhaps the worst possible thing he could do. Putin was putting him to the test and he failed it badly." "Now Putin, believing Biden to be all talk and no action, just announced he’s going to close the Kerch Strait, beginning next week until October to block any foreign warships out, including the United States. So if we wanted to help Ukraine through that avenue, now we can’t. An exceedingly bad move by Biden." redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04/15/biden-just-blinked-big-time-and-putin-already-taking-advantage-of-it-n361980 I'd say sending two destroyers to the Black Sea would be unnecessary. Going into the Sea of Azov would be stupidity. |
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Post by flatandy on Apr 16, 2021 12:30:32 GMT
putin orders beijing joe to grovel,,,the big guy says how much? "Biden Just Blinked Big Time" "But in the meantime, as the NY Post notes, Biden said he would be sending two destroyers to the Black Sea to deliver a message to Putin about not making moves on Ukraine, after Russia had massed thousands of troops on their border with Ukraine." "Putin warned the U.S. to stay away “for their own good.” What did Biden do then? He blinked and decided not to send the ships, an incredibly weak move, making it look like he was caving to Putin, perhaps the worst possible thing he could do. Putin was putting him to the test and he failed it badly." "Now Putin, believing Biden to be all talk and no action, just announced he’s going to close the Kerch Strait, beginning next week until October to block any foreign warships out, including the United States. So if we wanted to help Ukraine through that avenue, now we can’t. An exceedingly bad move by Biden." redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04/15/biden-just-blinked-big-time-and-putin-already-taking-advantage-of-it-n361980 A full blown dose of "I know you are, but what am I?" Republicans mocking Biden for being soft on Russia after the previous 4 years of the bloke who lied about meetings with the Russians, who never said a bad word about Putin... It's utterly hilarious. Did Trump ever move any military asset anywhere near Russia at any point? Oh no. Did he even offer to support the Ukrainians? Oh no... |
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 16, 2021 16:44:54 GMT
putin orders beijing joe to grovel,,,the big guy says how much? "Biden Just Blinked Big Time" "But in the meantime, as the NY Post notes, Biden said he would be sending two destroyers to the Black Sea to deliver a message to Putin about not making moves on Ukraine, after Russia had massed thousands of troops on their border with Ukraine." "Putin warned the U.S. to stay away “for their own good.” What did Biden do then? He blinked and decided not to send the ships, an incredibly weak move, making it look like he was caving to Putin, perhaps the worst possible thing he could do. Putin was putting him to the test and he failed it badly." "Now Putin, believing Biden to be all talk and no action, just announced he’s going to close the Kerch Strait, beginning next week until October to block any foreign warships out, including the United States. So if we wanted to help Ukraine through that avenue, now we can’t. An exceedingly bad move by Biden." redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04/15/biden-just-blinked-big-time-and-putin-already-taking-advantage-of-it-n361980 I'd say sending two destroyers to the Black Sea would be unnecessary. Going into the Sea of Azov would be stupidity. Not sure that's an issue. I think the transit of warships into the Black Sea is forbidden by international treaty. I need to check that. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_StraitsSort of. |
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Post by ootlg on Apr 16, 2021 17:05:48 GMT
I'd imagine the Bosphorus might be a problem. Erdogan certainly wouldn't like it. But Russian warships are always passing through into the Med so I'd imagine they don't have an exclusive right to passage.
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 16, 2021 17:55:21 GMT
Wasn't always so. They were forever trying to sneak subs into the Med in the 80s. There's quite a bit of interesting kit on the seabed off Gib. I remember my Dad having to fly on Boxing Day one year as the heathen Soviets were not respecting a Bank Holiday.
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Post by rick49 on Apr 17, 2021 0:38:34 GMT
i remember the donkeys all but calling for a shooting war with russia because of a fake newspaper story.
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Post by voice on Apr 17, 2021 0:47:08 GMT
Care to prove that?
Didn't think so.
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Post by flatandy on Apr 17, 2021 2:32:51 GMT
You need your memory checked if that’s what you remember.
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Post by ootlg on Apr 17, 2021 5:40:53 GMT
Wasn't always so. They were forever trying to sneak subs into the Med in the 80s. There's quite a bit of interesting kit on the seabed off Gib. I remember my Dad having to fly on Boxing Day one year as the heathen Soviets were not respecting a Bank Holiday. I'm a bit out of touch so you could well be right. Checking wiki... it seems a bit confused, Montreux Convention 'n all that. Turkey refusing to change the old agreement to allow passage but as you say, Russia doing pretty much what it wants. Or did. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 22, 2022 20:07:13 GMT
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