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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 25, 2019 17:54:35 GMT
Among the ultra-orthodox. You're kidding. Not among science Nobels, for sure.
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Post by mids on Mar 25, 2019 18:05:02 GMT
Pro-Israel, that's me.
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Post by flatandy on Mar 25, 2019 18:26:43 GMT
Israel's rubbish.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 25, 2019 18:27:56 GMT
Well, true, but it is considerably less rubbish than its neighbours.
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Post by avieder on Mar 26, 2019 8:51:31 GMT
Among the ultra-orthodox. You're kidding. Not among science Nobels, for sure. Mathematics. Medicine. Physics. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 11:50:45 GMT
Whatever anyone wants to say, the Jewish people are a talented bunch.
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Post by unclejunior on Mar 26, 2019 13:06:39 GMT
Come on then avi, you talented old man, what is the answer to this-- 1 13 16 61 ? 217 No helping him, and the answer is not online. 😊 Too easy ...😉 |
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Post by flatandy on Mar 26, 2019 14:03:55 GMT
Avi seems to be claiming that the many Jewish physics nobel winners are ultra-orthodox. Which doesn't ring true to me.
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Post by Gort on Mar 26, 2019 14:17:23 GMT
At the end of the day, the Ten commandments which are really just recomendations on how to conduct a good way of life but they sure as shiit were'nt sent from any god, they were made by man just like the Magna Carta. Rules made by man. Thank you. I think I saw this a few years ago in a different phrasing. The fact that we can all agree to is that it appears now in all monotheistic religions and certainly is transferred by men. My question was about the origin thereof. The origin came about the same way Harry Potter and the Wizard of Oz did. By a story teller. It aint rocket science. To atheists its as plain and simple to see but to people like yourself and Muslims you will never give into the facts and will still devote your life to fairy tales hobgoblins man made tales because you have everything to loose bcause you have based your entire life around these man made stories based on non existant gods, you would'nt know where to turn or what to do with yourself, you would go into psychotic melt down not having a god to worship. You are hooked like a smoker who cant stop smoking because he is addicted and like that scenario I thank fuk I never took up the habit of smoking and therefore dont have the need for nicotine as an atheist I also have no need for invisible non existant gods.. So to sum it up again,,,,, Harry Potter- Origin = Story Teller Wizard of Oz- Origin = Story Teller Bible- Origin = Story Teller Quran- Origin = Pedophile Story Teller |
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Post by voice on Mar 26, 2019 16:03:23 GMT
At the end of the day, the Ten commandments which are really just recomendations on how to conduct a good way of life but they sure as shiit were'nt sent from any god, they were made by man just like the Magna Carta. Rules made by man. Thank you. I think I saw this a few years ago in a different phrasing. The fact that we can all agree to is that it appears now in all monotheistic religions and certainly is transferred by men. My question was about the origin thereof. Not entirely accurate, apart from the needy insecure first couple, 'my god is best, don't go flirting with them other God's' all human societies mono theistic, poly theistic, spirite worshipers, nature worshipers and those with no need for such stuff have come up these basic rules, they are a human constant showing their origin is human rather than one of the various deities fairies sacred rocks what ever. |
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 26, 2019 17:57:07 GMT
Israel is a European colony. That's how it was founded. It's a settler colony. That means immigrants flood in and come to live in the colony. That's how the United States began. This is different from administrative colonies where comparatively few people come from the motherland to rule the colony, as soldiers, religious and government officials.
Israel is a throwback to the past. It was set up, just when the colonial period of history was ending, after the 2nd World War. It was founded by violence and can only continue to exist through its own military power and the support of the United States. Without the support of the United States, it would collapse.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 26, 2019 19:02:20 GMT
In think you mean Second Punic War, but even then, I think their claim to the turf in general terms is pretty solid.
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Post by avieder on Mar 26, 2019 19:42:49 GMT
Avi seems to be claiming that the many Jewish physics nobel winners are ultra-orthodox. Which doesn't ring true to me. I just say that there are. "many" is your invention. |
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Post by flatandy on Mar 26, 2019 19:44:56 GMT
Names?
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Post by avieder on Mar 26, 2019 20:00:03 GMT
Thank you. I think I saw this a few years ago in a different phrasing. The fact that we can all agree to is that it appears now in all monotheistic religions and certainly is transferred by men. My question was about the origin thereof. The origin came about the same way Harry Potter and the Wizard of Oz did. By a story teller. It aint rocket science. To atheists its as plain and simple to see but to people like yourself and Muslims you will never give into the facts and will still devote your life to fairy tales hobgoblins man made tales because you have everything to loose bcause you have based your entire life around these man made stories based on non existant gods, you would'nt know where to turn or what to do with yourself, you would go into psychotic melt down not having a god to worship. You are hooked like a smoker who cant stop smoking because he is addicted and like that scenario I thank fuk I never took up the habit of smoking and therefore dont have the need for nicotine as an atheist I also have no need for invisible non existant gods.. So to sum it up again,,,,, Harry Potter- Origin = Story Teller Wizard of Oz- Origin = Story Teller Bible- Origin = Story Teller Quran- Origin = Pedophile Story Teller Sure. Today we live by standards that somehow correspond to the Biblical. A 7 day week. A family. Honesty in trade. etc. etc. To "Neanderthal" men, It is utterly stupid not to hunt in the seventh day. Just like honoring a parent who might be a rival for food or sex. In short, gort, our society is a product of laws. So, l'll ask you again, can you point at the instance that these laws appeared out of the blue in human history? |
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Post by avieder on Mar 26, 2019 20:06:27 GMT
Thank you. I think I saw this a few years ago in a different phrasing. The fact that we can all agree to is that it appears now in all monotheistic religions and certainly is transferred by men. My question was about the origin thereof. Not entirely accurate, apart from the needy insecure first couple, 'my god is best, don't go flirting with them other God's' all human societies mono theistic, poly theistic, spirite worshipers, nature worshipers and those with no need for such stuff have come up these basic rules, they are a human constant showing their origin is human rather than one of the various deities fairies sacred rocks what ever. OK. Since when did they start? I mean with recorded history. Look at my reply to gort. |
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Post by avieder on Mar 26, 2019 20:23:33 GMT
Israel is a European colony. That's how it was founded. It's a settler colony. That means immigrants flood in and come to live in the colony. That's how the United States began. This is different from administrative colonies where comparatively few people come from the motherland to rule the colony, as soldiers, religious and government officials. Israel is a throwback to the past. It was set up, just when the colonial period of history was ending, after the 2nd World War. It was founded by violence and can only continue to exist through its own military power and the support of the United States. Without the support of the United States, it would collapse. At the start of Zionism the US was not involved. After The Six Day War they took more interest mainly because of the Jewish community. Like most of the world helping Israel interfered with their interests in the Muslim world, so any help was done "under the blanket". Obama's administration was the highest manifestation thereof. The violence here is a direct result of the British Divide and rule policy they imployed in all places they ruled in the world. The continued violence is by terror groups that were created and are now backed and financed by the nations that formed the Crusaders. |
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Post by Gort on Mar 27, 2019 21:37:05 GMT
The origin came about the same way Harry Potter and the Wizard of Oz did. By a story teller. It aint rocket science. To atheists its as plain and simple to see but to people like yourself and Muslims you will never give into the facts and will still devote your life to fairy tales hobgoblins man made tales because you have everything to loose bcause you have based your entire life around these man made stories based on non existant gods, you would'nt know where to turn or what to do with yourself, you would go into psychotic melt down not having a god to worship. You are hooked like a smoker who cant stop smoking because he is addicted and like that scenario I thank fuk I never took up the habit of smoking and therefore dont have the need for nicotine as an atheist I also have no need for invisible non existant gods.. So to sum it up again,,,,, Harry Potter- Origin = Story Teller Wizard of Oz- Origin = Story Teller Bible- Origin = Story Teller Quran- Origin = Pedophile Story Teller Sure. Today we live by standards that somehow correspond to the Biblical. A 7 day week. A family. Honesty in trade. etc. etc. To "Neanderthal" men, It is utterly stupid not to hunt in the seventh day. Just like honoring a parent who might be a rival for food or sex. In short, gort, our society is a product of laws. So, l'll ask you again, can you point at the instance that these laws appeared out of the blue in human history?Seriously  Are you that far gone with your limited open mindedness that you think because some cult leader comes up with some rules and regulations for his club and writes them down in a book that becasuse it has been recorded for the first time that it must have been a God who told him Your mindset is definitely medievaly corrupted to be looking for any infantile excuse to connect these things to a God rather than submit to the mature rational fact there are no gods. You really do not realize how insane you are. I would like to see you tell Muslims their god is a load of bullshiit because yours spoke to your gang leader 500 years before theirs, now does that not prove to you how absolute retarded the whole god crap is when you have over a billion muslim lunatics who's god turned up 500 years after yours yet all these muzzies believe their guy over yours.. You are all fuking lunatics with a religious liscense to keep you out of being banged up in an asylum. Albert Einstein came up with numerous equasions never before equated, so do you think a God told him? Furfuxake what am I saying,, of course you will..  Avi your a lost cause but it has been interesting... |
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Post by avieder on Mar 27, 2019 23:41:10 GMT
Wiki, Google .... Knowing you for two decades there is no use for me to tell you the true facts. |
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Post by flatandy on Mar 27, 2019 23:45:04 GMT
Ha
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