Ladyball

[voice]

Though isn't the womans team in the US far more successful and gets crowds just as big if not bigger for their games?

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Yes and they get paid more for it.

[voice]

but still less than the mens team who get less spectators and win nothing, isn't that what they are moaning about?

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

No, they get paid more than the men's team.

[voice]

then why is she moaning?

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Because they think they should be paid as much for winning the lady ball world cup as the men would be paid if they won the men's world cup.

[voice]

well that's just silly, thought she was moaning about the US men vs US woman. Though have to say I only skimmed things. Ladyball cup and the World Cup are of entirely different scales and scope.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

let me just clarify what I said there. The US women want to get paid the same as the US men would get paid for winning their respective world cups.

[voice]

still silly for the same reasons

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Yes

[Repat Van]

I genuinely don’t see why anybody would have an issue with somebody battling for more cash tbh.

Is there some negative impact to me if the US women’s football players manage to secure more cash?

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Ask for more cash by all means.
"i'm really good at my job, give me more money" is fine but stop whining about it being a sexism thing:

"I think so many women can understand what this feeling is going to a negotiation, knowing equal pay is not on the table. Knowing anywhere close to your male counterparts is not on the table.”

It's bullahit

[Repat Van]

*Shrugs*

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

*Slightly shifts weight onto left cheek*

[flatandy]

I'm going to stand down in this argument. I'd not read the details before. And the media turns out to be inept at telling us what actually happened. It sounds like the USWNT may not have had such a clear case as the media said. They just had very different contracts (which pisses a bit on the relevance of Ming's stats about average earnings per game).

I won't stand down from the arguments that the women should get paid less because they're not watched or supported by as many fans as the men - which is patently untrue in the US.

[mids]

Men's netball should get paid the same as women's netball.

[flatandy]

I suspect that it probably is.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

May 6, 2020 13:10:07 GMT flatandy said:

I'm going to stand down in this argument. I'd not read the details before. And the media turns out to be inept at telling us what actually happened. It sounds like the USWNT may not have had such a clear case as the media said. They just had very different contracts (which pisses a bit on the relevance of Ming's stats about average earnings per game).

I won't stand down from the arguments that the women should get paid less because they're not watched or supported by as many fans as the men - which is patently untrue in the US.

My stats came from the Judge's summing up.

But the crux of it is this:

Moreover, a step back to look at the big picture reveals the absurdity of concluding that the women somehow were "willing" to forego the kinds of bonuses the men had. Accordingly to a seemingly straightforward calculation, the the women would have made $66 million more if paid on the same structure as the men! The women had no reason to be "willing" to forego that staggering amount of additional compensation–even if they did receive some modest "insurance" at far lower levels of compensation. The WNT was the defending world champion during the negotiations–and were expected to be very strong contenders to win the 2019 Women's World Cup. They would have loved to have contracted for the same kinds of bonuses that the men were promised if they had achieved at that high international level.

As I said, they think they should be paid as much for winning the lady ball world cup as the men would be paid if they won the men's world cup.

[voice]

Next womans world cup in 2023 to be played in Australia and New Zealand

[Repat Van]

If I’m still here I will definitely pop along.