US 2020 election

[Marshall]

Ha ha ha, looks like Trump may have committed voter fraud. There's not really much of anything he can do without f**k**g things up.

Digging into the catacombs of local records to build an argument against the dock, a small group of loosely aligned preservationists, disgruntled neighbors and attorneys have unearthed documents that they assert call into question the legality of Trump’s much-publicized decision late last year to change his official domicile from Manhattan to Mar-a-Lago and to register to vote in Florida using the club’s address. According to those documents, and additional materials obtained by The Washington Post, Trump agreed in writing years ago to change the use of the Mar-a-Lago property from a single-family residence to a private club owned by a corporation he controls.

The distinction is significant. The property is taxed as a private club — not as a residence, according to Palm Beach County property appraiser records. Trump’s own attorney assured local officials in Palm Beach before they voted to approve the club in 1993 that he would not live there. Mar-a-Lago’s website says only that Trump maintains “private quarters” at the club.

“It’s one or the other — it’s a club or it’s your home,” Reginald Stambaugh, an attorney who represents a neighbor opposed to Trump’s dock plan, said in a recent interview. “You can’t have it both ways.”

www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-made-florida-his-official-residence-he-may-have-also-made-a-legal-mess/2020/05/07/17d53fb2-849c-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html

The Republicans love to jump up and down about voter fraud to promote their voter suppression efforts, but now that there's a real case of it I'm sure they'll look the other way.

[voice]

yeah, but we know they cheat at every election, have to really as they've lost every presidential election apart from once sine 1988, so they have to game the system to win. And really its what crims and grifters do, shout loudly that the other guy is doing what they are doing. 'you're the puppet' and so on.

[jimboky]

will Uncle Joe ever get out of his basement, or have the DNC bricked him in?

Where's Joe

[Marshall]

"If so, inform him that our nation needs leadership during this time of crisis."

Yes, it's sorely lacking, they got that much right.

[voice]

many a true thing said in jest

[flatandy]

I'm glad we all agree that the nation doesn't have leadership during this time of crisis.

[flatandy]

How can you unmask someone seven times? Once they're unmasked, aren't they unmasked?

[flatandy]

Also, it's absolutely hilarious that we're all clutching our pearls desperately over pretty trivial stuff, but are entirely happy to let massive corruption go unquestioned.

[voice]

well yes, the criminality of Flynn is well known, and admitted to, this is thin soup in comparison to his, and many other in this present regimes, criminality and corruption.

[flatandy]

The judge in the Flynn case has hilariously refused to throw it out and is still considering sentencing him for contempt for perjury.

[voice]

why, what do you imagine they did, apart from warn the incoming regime about Flynn being a criminal, you do realize that's how the rule of law works, and not as Trump and Barr would have you believe, Flynn being guilty and pointing this out in not a criminal act, well yet I suppose i should add, with this AG abandoning the rule of law I suppose anything is possible given the amount of politically motivated interventions and investigations he's done on behalf of your dear leader.

[voice]

Nothing mythical about it, the actual crime he pleaded guilty to and signed his name to in court saying "I plead guilty to these things because I am guilty of them" is lying to the FBI, negotiating with Russia during the transition while Obana was still in power and hiding the fact he was a paid foreign agent of Turnkey. It's all in the public record and no amount of spin will change the fact the criminal Flynn is guilty and accepted his guilt.

[flatandy]

Telling Russians to ignore actual US foreign policy seems like a deliberate subversion of the US state to me. You have the US government trying to achieve something with that policy. If you're negotiating an entirely different policy with the Russian government, you are making sure that the US can't achieve its aims.

[voice]

And offering to go easy on his son, who is also a criminal and was caught, in return for his cooperation is not threatening his family, in fact it was a way for him to save his son from the consequences of his own criminality.

[jimboky]

crime being: being Republican with connections to Trump

we now have a judge who is no longer pretending to be objective, he is openly partisan Dem, this is good

[flatandy]

I think they offered his criminal son relief from prosecution in exchange for cooperation from Flynn, not in exchange for a plea - although I could be wrong. But they definitely protected his family rather than threatened his family.

[voice]

May 14, 2020 14:15:28 GMT jimboky said:

crime being: lying to the FBI, negotiating with Russia while Obama still in office and being an unregistered paid agent of a forign power

we now have a judge who is now trying to protect the rule of law, a life long republican appointed by Bush, this is good

there, fixed it for you.

[jimboky]

I'd rather lose a point then try to alter another's post to try to make cheep point, <looser>

[voice]

you had a point?

he plead guilty you know, twice, signed his name to the above crimes saying 'I plead guilty because I am guilty', looks like all you had was blind refusal to accept the facts here jim.

[jimboky]

the facts are that it was illegal for Flynn's name to even be released to the FBI, if the evidence is illegal then the charge is dropped, it's a Rule of Law thing, it has gotten many criminals released, even those who really did crimes, even if Flynn were in fact guilty the charges should be dropped