The benefits of Brexit

[perrykneeham]

Preuhibitionists.

[perrykneeham]

Eutollahs

[moggyonspeed]

It's always a bad idea to stop Farage from talking.

He's still the poster child for all those for whom ethics, morals and a sense of decency make strange bedfellows.

As for Braverman - well, let her have her day - bless.

[mids]

You can't stand it when he talks because you know deep down that he's right and you don't have a single argument to counter his points.

[moggyonspeed]

Apr 16, 2024 13:20:12 GMT mids said:

You can't stand it when he talks because you know deep down that he's right and you don't have a single argument to counter his points.

What "points"? His brain, such as it is, is merely a clearing house for the latest set of knee-jerk hatreds he thought of whilst taking a dump this morning. Sheesh, the man renders being wrong almost to the levels of being an art form in itself.

As the majority of us are familiar with his bile & vitriol on subjects from Asylum Seekers to Zimbabwe, let's look at just three of his recent pronouncements on, say, HIV/AIDS for example ...

- "HIV is a life-threatening condition" : WRONG! HIV is a manageable condition here in the UK where access to treatment is easy; any idea that he's thinking of his foreign brethren with this statement is self-evidently b*ll*cks;
- "People living with HIV do not have trades & skills" : WRONG!! Just how f*ck*ng insulting does Farage strive to be with drivel like this? The HIV "demographic" can be found in every skilled trade and profession here in the UK;
- "HIV border controls work" : WRONG!!! No they don't, and UNAIDS' own 10-point research plan bears this out. What border controls do achieve is to deny sufferers access to treatment across borders, once more giving the lie to Farage's faux concern for his fellow man.

More please Nige, so that we can all have a role model for what an inhuman, selfish and self-serving ego-maniac looks and sounds like.

[perrykneeham]

Sir Tony Blair

[flatandy]

"The police document suggested speeches by speakers including Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman could display racist views."

Could? The Belgian police are obviously in a very generous mood.

[Repat Van]

Apr 16, 2024 13:46:15 GMT moggyonspeed said:

Apr 16, 2024 13:20:12 GMT mids said:

You can't stand it when he talks because you know deep down that he's right and you don't have a single argument to counter his points.

What "points"? His brain, such as it is, is merely a clearing house for the latest set of knee-jerk hatreds he thought of whilst taking a dump this morning. Sheesh, the man renders being wrong almost to the levels of being an art form in itself.

As the majority of us are familiar with his bile & vitriol on subjects from Asylum Seekers to Zimbabwe, let's look at just three of his recent pronouncements on, say, HIV/AIDS for example ...

- "HIV is a life-threatening condition" : WRONG! HIV is a manageable condition here in the UK where access to treatment is easy; any idea that he's thinking of his foreign brethren with this statement is self-evidently b*ll*cks;
- "People living with HIV do not have trades & skills" : WRONG!! Just how f*ck*ng insulting does Farage strive to be with drivel like this? The HIV "demographic" can be found in every skilled trade and profession here in the UK;
- "HIV border controls work" : WRONG!!! No they don't, and UNAIDS' own 10-point research plan bears this out. What border controls do achieve is to deny sufferers access to treatment across borders, once more giving the lie to Farage's faux concern for his fellow man.

More please Nige, so that we can all have a role model for what an inhuman, selfish and self-serving ego-maniac looks and sounds like.

Sorry he genuinely said “people with HIV do not have trades and skills?”

He really said that? I know Farage is a bit of a thicko but even for him that’s an odd one.

[perrykneeham]

Haha!

"The Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Simon Harris has asked Ireland's justice minister to bring legislation to cabinet to enable asylum seekers to be sent back to the UK.

Helen McEntee has revealed that 80% of recent arrivals to the Republic came from the UK across the Irish border.

Tánaiste (deputy prime minister) Micheál Martin said the UK's Rwanda policy was already impacting Ireland."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68914399

Brilliant. I hope UK starts requiring Irish passport holders to apply for visas to come to UK, including the ones who were born here.

[moggyonspeed]

Seems fair.

"That's why I'm introducing fast processing. That's why I'll have emergency legislation at cabinet this week to make sure that we can effectively return people to the UK ..."

Now replace 'UK' with'EU' and this is pretty much what The Natsy Party should have done - but then again, fast processing takes political will, commitment, intelligence, effort and sustainable funding; not this government's strong suits, yunnerstan'?

[perrykneeham]

Ah, so they would expect a different deal then? Interesting.

[moggyonspeed]

No. They expect to have a policy covering the one border from where the problem emanates - the border with Ulster.

Interestingly, they can do this without recourse to the EU because of the sovereignty they still enjoy - that same sovereignty that we "took back" when we left. Lord knows why you've posted that story on this thread; it's got squat-all to do with the EU.

[mids]

Not keen on the "New Irish" any more, are they?

[perrykneeham]

Apr 28, 2024 9:52:17 GMT moggyonspeed said:

No. They expect to have a policy covering the one border from where the problem emanates - the border with Ulster.

Interestingly, they can do this without recourse to the EU because of the sovereignty they still enjoy - that same sovereignty that we "took back" when we left. Lord knows why you've posted that story on this thread; it's got squat-all to do with the EU.

You do know that Eire isn't run by the UK these days, don't you?

[mids]

Southern Ireland.

[perrykneeham]

The Latin Shires.

[mids]

Anyway, they can just return to Southern Ireland under the Common Travel Area agreement. They can return as many times as they please.

[perrykneeham]

"The Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Simon Harris has said other countries' migration policies "cannot be allowed to undermine" Ireland's.

He said Ireland will "not provide a loophole for anybody else's migration challenges" after it emerged that the majority of asylum seekers entering Ireland have crossed the border from Northern Ireland.

Mr Harris has asked Justice Minister Helen McEntee to bring legislation to cabinet on Tuesday to enable asylum seekers to be sent back to the UK.

However, a UK government source said the UK “won’t accept any asylum returns from the EU via Ireland" until the EU changes its policies."

Pigeons. Roost. Petard. Hoisting.

[perrykneeham]

I imagine Rishi will be getting a fizzer from the US Embassy this morning. They usually do the bidding of the Boston set.

[mids]

Haha fucking ha. Mick twats.

"Who could possibly have imagined that the Irish public would turn out to be no more keen on illegal migration than people in Britain? This is, after all, the country of Mary Robinson, former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, who still travels the world lecturing us all about how the rich world is oppressing the poor and weak through climate change.



The lectures don’t end there. Ireland has prided itself on “standing up” for the Palestinians, to the point it tried to persuade the EU to issue a statement demanding that Israel refrain from any kind of military response to the October 7 terrorist attack. And just last month, its High Court ruled in March that it would be illegal under Ireland’s constitution to designate Britain as a “safe third country” for refugees on account of the evil Rwanda policy.



Ireland was supposed to be the shining human rights citadel on the hill, rising above nasty, racist and xenophobic Brexit Britain – or so the country’s liberal elite loved telling the world.



And yet. The Irish public is suddenly marching the streets waving banners with slogans such as “Ireland is Full”, “Ireland for the Irish” and “Irish Lives Matter” – the latter of which could well earn you a trip to court if transposed to “English Lives Matter” in an English street.



What’s more, it’s not just the Irish public bleating about migration. Suddenly, the government is fed up with migrants spilling over the border from Northern Ireland into the republic. It wants to change the law so that migrants can be returned to the United Kingdom whence they came – the United Kingdom which a few weeks ago was deemed to be unsafe.



Isn’t that what welcoming Ireland is supposed to be doing: offering sanctuary to anyone who fears for their safety in a brutal country like Britain? Yet it seems that Dublin’s enthusiasm has begun to pale a little now the numbers are rising. Rather than an exceptional paragon of woke virtue, it is, in other words, just like Britain – and indeed every other country.



If you needed further proof, just look at Germany. Nine years ago Angela Merkel was chirping her country’s moral virtue through her willkommenskultur policy – which said to refugees: if you can make your way to Germany, don’t worry, we will put you up, feed you and clothe you. What is Germany doing now? Er, considering deporting asylum-seekers to Rwanda.



No western country can sustain a policy of complete openness to migrants for long. There are just too many people in the world whose living standards could theoretically be raised by migrating to the West. Any Western country which opened its doors wide to migrants would quickly have its public services, housing stock and welfare system overwhelmed, making everyone poorer. The fact that Ireland is suddenly moaning about migrants spilling over the border from the United Kingdom just goes to show that virtue signalling only goes so far.



It also suggests that the Rwanda scheme is beginning to work. It might be expensive, and few migrants may ever be deported there, but that misses the point: the scheme is a powerful deterrent which tells economic migrants that if they are thinking of posing as refugees to come to Britain, don’t bother. We will protect you if you are in danger – but your safe berth will be in Rwanda, not here.



Perhaps goody-goody Ireland will soon start threatening to send asylum-seekers to Rwanda, too.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/29/ireland-migrants-britain-rwanda-simon-harris/