Beatles vs. Stones

[mids]

May 7, 2021 8:29:26 GMT whiterum said:

No, guns n roses written by Axl himself.

Axl McCartney?

[perrykneeham]

May 7, 2021 8:59:09 GMT mids said:

The Stranglers were great. Talented pub rock turned punk.

Yeah, they were never really punk. Thank fcuk.

[whiterum]

May 7, 2021 8:59:37 GMT mids said:

May 7, 2021 8:29:26 GMT whiterum said:

No, guns n roses written by Axl himself.

Axl McCartney?

No, Axl StarlenMcarthy

[sweet soul]

Stones : )

[flatandy]

One big difference, for me, is that Mick always sang with his weird fake-American accent that developed in the early 60s when Rock N Roll was only an American thing and therefore nobody could imagine it being sung in a British accent. The Beatles started that way but by the mid-60s were clearly from Liverpool, and I think that gave them more identity and less of a copycatty feel.

Having said all that, there are probably more Stones albums I'd listen to right now (Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street, Let It Bleed) than Beatles ones (Abbey Road, and possibly Let It Be).

[mids]

The thing about the Beatles is that they split up before they became a fully fledged rock band. The Stones were a fully fledged rock band on the release of Beggars Banquet in 1968 and the US tour of 1969 from which one of the best live albums ever came- Get Yer Yayas Out.

[mids]

May 7, 2021 12:12:24 GMT flatandy said:

One big difference, for me, is that Mick always sang with his weird fake-American accent that developed in the early 60s when Rock N Roll was only an American thing and therefore nobody could imagine it being sung in a British accent. The Beatles started that way but by the mid-60s were clearly from Liverpool, and I think that gave them more identity and less of a copycatty feel.

Having said all that, there are probably more Stones albums I'd listen to right now (Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street, Let It Bleed) than Beatles ones (Abbey Road, and possibly Let It Be).

His singing voice probably stems from the Stones' blues influences.

[whiterum]

The American murdering scum that shot John dead didn't help either.

[ootlg]

Different beasts. Which do I prefer? Depends on my mood. Both hold memories for me. But probably what WKC said in his first post.

If I listen to them now, the Beatles are nostalgia, but the stones make me want to get out of it. If you know what I mean.

[ootlg]

I was going more on the music than what they look like. I mean, the Beatles would look pretty bizarre if they were performing now.

[voice]

Beatles for sure, though I'd put The Who above The Stones all day long as close runners up

[ootlg]

The Who were crap. I rate Cream, Pink Floyd, Yardbirds, Pretty Things, John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers, and for a bit of pop, the Kinks.

[voice]

Keith Moon was ace

[Marshall]

May 7, 2021 6:50:31 GMT whiterum said:

Marshal, when you're back here reading this, can you tell me why you chose those two bands, and not any American bands please, Ta.

Because it's always been a long-standing debate. Being the two biggest bands from the British Invasion, they were compared to each other from the start.

[Marshall]

May 7, 2021 4:30:52 GMT mids said:

The Stones have Charlie though. Ringo's a decent drummer but he doesn't have Charlie's groove. The Beatles didn't have the Stones' groove. And Mick Taylor's a better guitarist than John. Tumbling Dice is a better song than Yellow Submarine. The Stones win.

Charlie might have a better groove, though I feel Ringo is highly underrated. He was probably the perfect fit for the Beatles.

Mick a better guitarist than John: This is true.

I'll give you Tumbling Dice > Yellow Submarine. But as awful as Hello Goodbye is, it's still better than 2000 Lightyears from Home.

[Marshall]

Also, the Kinks were very underrated and Keith Moon is highly overrated.

[voice]

I was a big fan of the Clash and Strangers, but I thought The Jam topped em both at times, That's Entertainment is probably the best song of the 80's

[mids]

Yeah I liked the Jam. Down in the Tube Station at Midnight is a belter. The Stranglers had better songs imo. Never really thought much of The Clash. Couple of half decent songs.

[voice]

Joe Stumner, great guitarist. Though Johnny Mar was also brilliant, shame that maudlin tw@t Morrissey was their singer.

[flatandy]

I went through a couple of different phases of thinking The Clash were basically the best band ever. Both of those phases were over 20 years ago now. Now I almost never listen to anything by them and think them pretty ploddy and also self-important.

The Jam were briefly very good. Shame that Weller turned into such a dull old man.

The Kinks were great. One of the best gigs I ever saw was a Ray Davies set on a Saturday night at Glastonbury when some giant headliner was playing the main stage. Absolutely fantastic mix of storytelling and great songs.

On the original subject: Octopus's Garden is less racist than Brown Sugar. But You Can't Always Get What You Want is less of a dirgey right-wing whine than Taxman. So, you know, maybe it all balances out.