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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 13:09:46 GMT
The 'Legion of Brothers' that routed the Taliban(CNN)"The documentary feature film "Legion of Brothers" tells the stories of the handful (12 Green Beret troops on horseback) of US Special Forces soldiers who, shortly after the 9/11 attacks, went into Taliban-controlled Afghanistan and within a matter of weeks overthrew the Taliban regime." edition.cnn.com/2017/05/17/opinions/legion-of-brothers-bergen/index.htmlthat is a successful military campaign. not this disaster we are witnessing now.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 13:10:41 GMT
heaven help the women and schoolgirls. apparently, in his rush to be anti-trump, when asked about the women and schoolgirls, he said f**k them. i'm looking for the quote. You really believe Biden said that? read it again. |
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Post by mids on Aug 16, 2021 13:12:18 GMT
The clue's in the word "deal". Deal, not hysterical panic which is what Biden's opted for. Joe's Genocide.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 16, 2021 13:46:54 GMT
You really believe Biden said that? read it again. We were talking about Biden and you interjected with that. Thinking you believed that was said about Biden is a reasonable inference. |
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 16, 2021 13:47:26 GMT
The clue's in the word "deal". Deal, not hysterical panic which is what Biden's opted for. Joe's Genocide. So you think what Afghanistan needs is for the Taliban to be in power? Ok. |
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Post by flatandy on Aug 16, 2021 13:53:59 GMT
This is thread good on the withdrawal.
Basically, anyone who expected perfect conditions for a withdrawal are mendacious. They are, in fact, the same generals and neocons who've been pushing the agenda for the forever-war: Oh, we can't withdraw until conditions are perfect, but conditions are never going to be perfect so we'll never have a withdrawal.
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Post by wetkingcanute on Aug 16, 2021 14:01:42 GMT
On February 29, 2020, the US and the Taliban signed a peace agreement titled the Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan, with provisions including the withdrawal of all regular American and NATO troops from Afghanistan, a Taliban pledge to prevent al-Qaeda from operating in areas under Taliban control, and talks between the Taliban and the government of the then Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. The deal was supported by China, Pakistan, and Russia, and unanimously endorsed by the United Nations Security Council.
The Trump administration agreed to an initial reduction from 13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a full withdrawal by May 1 2021
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Post by mids on Aug 16, 2021 14:24:13 GMT
I see even Biden's Wall Street Journal has rightly turned against him. "President Biden’s statement on Saturday washing his hands of Afghanistan deserves to go down as one of the most shameful in history by a Commander in Chief at such a moment of American retreat. As the Taliban closed in on Kabul, Mr. Biden sent a confirmation of U.S. abandonment that absolved himself of responsibility, deflected blame to his predecessor, and more or less invited the Taliban to take over the country." www.wsj.com/articles/biden-afghanistan-surrender-withdrawal-ashraf-ghani-kabul-saigon-jihadist-9-11-11629054041 |
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Post by ootlg on Aug 16, 2021 14:25:07 GMT
You believe what mids says? No wonder you voted Brexit.
*To van, obv.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 14:33:02 GMT
The clue's in the word "deal". Deal, not hysterical panic which is what Biden's opted for. Joe's Genocide. So you think what Afghanistan needs is for the Taliban to be in power? Ok. obviously biden does. |
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Post by flatandy on Aug 16, 2021 14:39:27 GMT
I've seen a lot of takes about how "disastrous" western intervention has been. I'm not sure it's been that disastrous for most Afghans - things seem to be going back to where they were 20 years ago. The Taliban are in charge. It's not disastrous in the sense of taking a poor situation and making it much, much worse like the US did in Vietnam or the US did in Panama or the US did in Iraq or the US did in Somalia. It's taking a disastrous situation to start with and ending up with the same disastrous situation. It's been pretty disastrous for the US taxpayer and very disastrous for the people who've died in the past 20 years. But it's not been disastrous in the way it's presented by some.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 16, 2021 14:40:21 GMT
So you think what Afghanistan needs is for the Taliban to be in power? Ok. obviously biden does. I think you mean "Obviously that's what Trump negotiated with the Taliban leaders that he negotiated to have the Pakistani authorities free from jail." |
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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 14:45:20 GMT
On February 29, 2020, the US and the Taliban signed a peace agreement titled the Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan, with provisions including the withdrawal of all regular American and NATO troops from Afghanistan, a Taliban pledge to prevent al-Qaeda from operating in areas under Taliban control, and talks between the Taliban and the government of the then Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. The deal was supported by China, Pakistan, and Russia, and unanimously endorsed by the United Nations Security Council. The Trump administration agreed to an initial reduction from 13,000 to 8,600 troops by July 2020, followed by a full withdrawal by May 1 2021trumps plans was conditional. if the taliban did what they are doing now, they would have paid a very heavy price for it. biden plan was unconditional. biden told the taliban "here, it's yours. do whatever you want because i don't care." www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/donald-trump-weighs-in-on-afghanistan-if-i-was-president-things-would-be-different.html |
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Post by mids on Aug 16, 2021 14:48:07 GMT
Blood-on-his-hands Biden.
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Post by ootlg on Aug 16, 2021 15:18:18 GMT
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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 16:14:05 GMT
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Post by mids on Aug 16, 2021 16:18:09 GMT
Genocidin' Biden.
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Post by mids on Aug 16, 2021 16:20:51 GMT
The world's media ('cept the BBC of course) are united in utter condemnation of Biden. mol.im/a/9897611 |
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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 17:05:15 GMT
south vietnam held on for two years after the last us soldier left.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 16, 2021 17:14:36 GMT
The world's media ('cept the BBC of course) are united in utter condemnation of Biden. mol.im/a/9897611exactly. trump told the taliban in no uncertain terms retaliation would be very severe if they tried what they are now doing. biden said 'meh, do what you want.' |
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