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Post by mids on Jan 10, 2022 13:56:01 GMT
The left have lost their utter shit over this small protest.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 10, 2022 13:58:09 GMT
she put 1/6 on the same plateau as pearl harbor and 9/11. What she didn't say - at what Snopes is confirming that she didn't say - is that it's worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. |
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Post by flatandy on Jan 10, 2022 14:01:41 GMT
well it was the biggest threat to the US since Pearl Harbor, and much more than 9/11, after all AQ was never gonna overturn the US system, but those behind the insurrection last year had the goal of installing an autocrat and removing the elected government, an act, if they had succeeded that would have heralded the end of over 240 years of democracy and peaceful transfer of power in the US. essentially ending the American experiment. So yeah its on the same plateau. To be fair, these idiots were also not actually going to overthrow the US government. This is one place I agree with Rick. Trump was convinced by his enablers that by some magic legalistic trick the election would be overturned, because he needed to hear that and wouldn't accept reality, and his enablers gave him whatever his ego needed. And they all worked to make it happen. But even if they had managed to hang Pence and kill half the Senators and end the confirmation session, Trump was not going to be staying in power. |
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Post by mids on Jan 10, 2022 14:08:34 GMT
Harris thinks it was worse than the holocaust.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 10, 2022 14:13:35 GMT
Maybe. But she didn’t say that out loud.
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Post by voice on Jan 10, 2022 14:14:27 GMT
well it was the biggest threat to the US since Pearl Harbor, and much more than 9/11, after all AQ was never gonna overturn the US system, but those behind the insurrection last year had the goal of installing an autocrat and removing the elected government, an act, if they had succeeded that would have heralded the end of over 240 years of democracy and peaceful transfer of power in the US. essentially ending the American experiment. So yeah its on the same plateau. To be fair, these idiots were also not actually going to overthrow the US government. This is one place I agree with Rick. Trump was convinced by his enablers that by some magic legalistic trick the election would be overturned, because he needed to hear that and wouldn't accept reality, and his enablers gave him whatever his ego needed. And they all worked to make it happen. But even if they had managed to hang Pence and kill half the Senators and end the confirmation session, Trump was not going to be staying in power. yeah, but the actual storming of the capitol was not the full extent of the coup attempt, it had been going on for 2 months by that point, spurious claims of voter fraud and resultant court cases hoping the supreme court would do for Trump what it did for Bush in 2000, illegal calls to governors and AG's to 'find votes', refusing to accept defeat, putting together plans for Mike Pence to refuse to count electors, the promulgation of the big lie, purging of anyone from the GOP who tells the truth about what actually happened, that was, and is, the real danger to the American system of democracy. |
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Post by flatandy on Jan 10, 2022 14:25:42 GMT
Sure. Many of them believed it would work, the idiots. But mostly it was a big show of fake-coup to appease Trump's ego. That's all this whole show was. The previous two months of it were part of the same performance. It was still always going to end up with Biden as president no matter what these guys did.
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Post by voice on Jan 10, 2022 14:42:53 GMT
The intent was to install Trump against the wishes of the electorate, sure they were mostly incompetent chancers, fumbling and bumbling along making fools of themselves, but the intent was clear and if they could have, then Trump would have been re-installed. Sure the traitors caucus, for instance, knew it was bound to fail, but is an attempted coup, no matter how incompetently carried out, less because of that incompetence?
The thing is though, now they know what went wrong, next time they are making sure they can succeed.
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Post by happyhammerhead on Jan 10, 2022 14:46:43 GMT
Idiots don't learn from their mistakes, because they're idiots.
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Post by voice on Jan 10, 2022 14:53:41 GMT
yeah, but others around the idiots see an opportunity, they see what's possible if done by non idiots and this has been playing out in Red states for the past year, GOP legislatures granting themselves the power to overturn any result they don't like, installing parky hacks in place who, if asked next time, will 'find the votes' taking away the franchise from as many voters as possible if its perceived they might vote democrat. In an unprecedented year so far for voting legislation, 19 states have enacted 33 laws that will make it harder for Americans to vote. www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021 |
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Post by rick49 on Jan 11, 2022 0:57:28 GMT
The left have lost their utter sh it over this small protest. yup. numerous attacks by the left on govt. buildings, including multiple bombings of the capitol, and they lose their minds over this. all that projection is rotting whats left of their minds. |
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Post by voice on Jan 11, 2022 3:29:08 GMT
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Post by voice on Jan 12, 2022 2:41:19 GMT
As predicted it's emerged today two other states republican parties submitted forged documents sending fake electors, Arizona being Arazona, sent two different forgeries from 2 different set of Republicans, all five used the same template, so it's obviously proof of a concerted conspiracy to subvert the election. Question is, who was running this fraud?
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Post by voice on Jan 13, 2022 20:16:32 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Jan 13, 2022 20:31:40 GMT
Starting to sound a lot like victors' history and victors' justice.
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Post by voice on Jan 13, 2022 21:50:54 GMT
No, it's really not.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jan 14, 2022 8:16:11 GMT
You would say that.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 14, 2022 13:05:13 GMT
Yes. We all would say that because it’s true.
Do you consider it “victor’s justice” when thieves get prosecuted because the people who own the stuff getting stolen want the prosecution to happen?
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Post by mids on Jan 14, 2022 13:17:52 GMT
Labour. In the pocket of China. Proper traitorship, not a mimbling wank-fantasy over some old ladies having a small protest.
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Post by voice on Jan 20, 2022 3:27:43 GMT
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