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Post by Repat Van on Mar 21, 2023 16:11:32 GMT
Well yes, if you view women as property you would probably think that way. |
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Post by Repat Van on Mar 21, 2023 16:13:04 GMT
Is it’s reversible, or if it needs to be topped off because it fades over time, then that’s probably healthier. But Van is right. If people choose to do it, there’s nothing that should stop them. But I think it’s probably OK to comment on it. If someone chooses to change their voice in order to sound idiotic (say, Elizabeth Holmes or Margaret Thatcher) we’re fine to comment on that choice. If someone decides to say incredibly stupid stuff even though they know better (almost everyone in the current Tory Party except, maybe, Liz Truss who is actually stupid and Priti Patel who is actually evil, knows perfectly well that what they’ve been saying for the last decade is incoherent dribble), we’re fine to comment on that choice. So why not comment on people who choose to look really stupid as well as people who choose to appear really stupid in other ways? People can definitely comment but a lot of men have this weird sense of ownership over women and what they do with their bodies. Hence them crying “why do women do X I have never met a man who likes it!!!1!” So? And? We should criticise that attitude too. |
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Post by flatandy on Mar 21, 2023 16:19:20 GMT
Agree
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 21, 2023 16:35:56 GMT
Well yes, if you view women as property you would probably think that way. Nah, I regard them as sovereign individuals to be respected and regarded. Just like everyone else, as a starting point. |
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Post by voice on Mar 21, 2023 16:39:09 GMT
you here all week...?
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Post by ootlg on Mar 21, 2023 17:03:11 GMT
He's coming back as Baloo The Sequel, when he plays his alter ego.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 21, 2023 17:29:44 GMT
No, I just don't pretend to be one, although I do find it most relaxing to sit down for a piss.
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Post by mids on Mar 21, 2023 17:37:36 GMT
Those urinals can be a bit uncomfortable, mind.
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Post by voice on May 9, 2023 18:59:57 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on May 9, 2023 19:02:13 GMT
You have to be 21 to have sex in Texas?
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Post by voice on May 9, 2023 19:12:30 GMT
Sorry meant to add, drinking, so getting her drunk was illegal, shagging her was just pervy
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Post by flatandy on May 9, 2023 19:14:14 GMT
Bizarrely, you have to be 21 to drink.
And you really shouldn't shag your interns*.
* yes, we know.
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Post by wetkingcanute on May 10, 2023 16:48:28 GMT
Obviously as he's far right he's not appologing or thinking he's done anything wrong and he's been targeted in some aay he fails to define.
Not unlike the far right Mr Clinton who thought that oral sex wasn't really sex.
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Post by voice on May 10, 2023 16:54:50 GMT
No argument here, only Clinton didn't do anything illegal, just creepy and pervy
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Post by perrykneeham on May 10, 2023 17:00:54 GMT
Well, the perjury of course.
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Post by flatandy on May 10, 2023 17:07:41 GMT
As I said three posts ago: "Yes, we know".
Clinton, of course, was not a moral crusader on "values" about other peoples sex and gender. What he did was vile in terms of the power dynamic, but it wasn't illegal (apart from an argument on the perjury stuff), wasn't family-values hypocritical, and he didn't get Monica wasted to have his way with her.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 10, 2023 17:46:09 GMT
He was, of course, PotUS. Something that I have repeatedly said but something you struggle to digest.
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Post by mids on May 10, 2023 17:57:10 GMT
As I said three posts ago: "Yes, we know". Clinton, of course, was not a moral crusader on "values" about other peoples sex and gender. What he did was vile in terms of the power dynamic, but it wasn't illegal (apart from an argument on the perjury stuff), wasn't family-values hypocritical, and he didn't get Monica wasted to have his way with her. So he was pro-adultery, lying and taking advantage of girls barely old enough to drink? Is that Democrat policy too? |
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Post by flatandy on May 10, 2023 17:58:12 GMT
He was, of course, PotUS. Something that I have repeatedly said but something you struggle to digest. Yes. That's how there's an abusive power dynamic at work. |
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Post by voice on May 10, 2023 18:01:31 GMT
And creepy and perry, but nothing in the act was illegal, and as FA said he never cast himself as a moral crusader, two definite differences between the men.
No one is defending creepy perry Clinton here, but brining him up is an attempt to distract from the activities of the Senator from Texas, who not only is creepy and perry, he broke the law and has been wailing "oh won't someone think of the children" and accusing all and sundry of grooming and sexualusation of young people.
Though given the track record of moral crusading conservatives in the US, I guess the only surprising aspect of his behavior is it wasn't a rent boy in some motel he was banging while snorting coke off his ass.
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