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Post by perrykneeham on May 20, 2023 11:54:24 GMT
"Keir Starmer should pledge £11bn towards building “BritGPT” and a national artificial intelligence (AI) cloud in the next Labour manifesto or risk the UK falling ever further into dependence on American tech companies, an affiliated thinktank has said. Labour for the Long Term, which campaigns within the party for it to adopt “long-termist” policies that mitigate dangers such as pandemics, climate breakdown, and AI extinction, argues in a report that the £1bn pledged by the government in the 2023 budget is not enough to protect Britain’s future independence." amp.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/20/labour-should-pledge-11bn-to-build-britgpt-ai-thinktank-saysDunno. Haven't really got a grip on this topic yet, but it seems to me that this is simply facilitation of regression to the mean. No wonder teachers are worried. Also, the fact that all the articles on the topic are in The Guardian makes a big blip on my bullshit radar. Sell it to me. |
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Post by mids on May 20, 2023 12:20:22 GMT
Like bitcoin, I haven’t got a clue. Well slightly more of a clue since I sort of understand what it is but haven’t got the faintest idea of how it will affect society. Either it will be utopia or it will be Skynet. Nothing in between.
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 13:54:16 GMT
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 13:56:26 GMT
AI pioneer quits Google to warn about the technology's dangers"Geoffrey Hinton, who has been called the ‘Godfather of AI,’ confirmed Monday that he left his role at Google last week to speak out about the dangers of the technology he helped to develop. … In the interview with the Times, Hinton echoed concerns about AI’s potential to eliminate jobs and create a world where many will “not be able to know what is true anymore.” www.cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-google-ai-fears/index.html
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 13:58:20 GMT
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Post by ootlg on May 20, 2023 14:32:49 GMT
ChatGPT is being used by some 'writers' trying to get their work published. It's easily identifiable to those in the trade and condemns the 'writer' to oblivion.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 20, 2023 14:34:21 GMT
Well, awe-inspiring stories of supernatural presence from industry insiders is all a bit Vatican City, isn't it?
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Post by ootlg on May 20, 2023 15:13:51 GMT
Ah, that's a different thing. Interestingly, some years ago they set up a system of computers placed alongside each other and found that they eventually fell into sync when left to their own devices. As if there was a common energy.
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Post by flatandy on May 20, 2023 15:19:31 GMT
"BritGPT"? Oh good f**k**g lord. Why are the Brits so pathetic and so desperate to have their own, second-rate version of everything.
Anyway, this form of AI doesn't terrify me at all. It just regurgitates what is already available. It can create semi-coherent content, particularly if that content doesn't have to have any meaning. As soon as it actually has to be confident it knows something, it can't work. Because the online content it's trawling through is inherently full of dribbling nonsense as well as correct stuff and it can't know the difference and can't make coherent edits based of real knowledge.
There is one potentially hilarious consequence of it. ChapGPT can produce huge amounts of content very quickly. So lots of internet pages are going to be made by ChatGPT. Which is then going to learn from itself. So any error it creates in an output will become an input and it will get recursive and it will end up having almost no human input and become totally useless.
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 15:36:24 GMT
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Post by mids on May 20, 2023 15:37:01 GMT
We don't want to have inferior, faily CheutGPeuTeu.
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 15:40:07 GMT
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Post by unclejunior on May 20, 2023 15:43:20 GMT
Just watched Kubricks 2001 recently … it’s a great movie although the ending is rather fuzzy ….. some great predictions made over 50 years ago by Arthur C Clarke in his novel..
Wonder what film of late might be of the same foresight …?🤔
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Post by perrykneeham on May 20, 2023 15:47:03 GMT
Ah, that's a different thing. Interestingly, some years ago they set up a system of computers placed alongside each other and found that they eventually fell into sync when left to their own devices. As if there was a common energy. Oo ee oo ee... I feel that it's very much the same scam TBH. |
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 15:48:16 GMT
Just watched Kubricks 2001 recently … it’s a great movie although the ending is rather fuzzy ….. some great predictions made over 50 years ago by Arthur C Clarke in his novel.. Wonder what film of late might be of the same foresight …?🤔 arthur c. clark was a genius. he saw this crap coming long before anyone else did. |
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Post by rick49 on May 20, 2023 16:06:01 GMT
everything we can do ai will be able to do faster and better. art, musical composition, novel writing, medicine, surgery, astronomy, physics, math, construction, you name it. why are we so eager to render ourselves obsolete? what use would ai have for any biological life? it would sweep us aside like we sweep ants aside. we would just be a nuisance to it.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 20, 2023 16:10:26 GMT
The ChatGTP thing just feels like a bluffers' game. We tried it in the office and the less articulate naturally thought it was wonderful. To me, it looked like the kind of anodyne gumbo that they might vomit on a good day. Hackneyed, clichéd pulp.
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Post by flatandy on May 20, 2023 16:27:06 GMT
Yep. There may come a time when there's competent AI. At the moment ChatGPT isn't it. If you want to create a corporatese mission statement that has no meaning but mimics everyone else's "We want to achieve greater excellence through increased synergies within ours and across departments as a way of levelling up our growth and opportunities" kind of bollocks, then ChatGPT will be fine. If you want it to actually offer a good course of action, or even some decent considered prose, you'll be sadly underwhelmed.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 20, 2023 16:34:57 GMT
Exactly. Why would you want to regurgitate the same mediocrity as the other also-rans?
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Post by flatandy on May 20, 2023 16:41:02 GMT
Sometimes you do want to regurgitate mediocrity with almost no effort. There are times it's better than actually doing the work to produce something nobody cares about. Particularly if you want to, say, get search engines to find your stuff. sh*t and easy has some value some of the time. AI can currently do that for you. But that's the limit of it.
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