Hell in a handcart....

[flatandy]

I didn’t even wear one for my dad’s funeral. It was a long time ago, whenever it was.

[happyhammerhead]

There are some teachers at work who wear ties.

Gay. Not that there's anything wrong with being gay. It's just amusing when obviously trying not to look it.

[perrykneeham]

I remember reading somewhere about the dress requirements for teachers in school. The tie was required in order to maintain a businesslike appearance.

Hmmmm .... is the whole shebang hung together on "appearance"? I think it's more likely that if many teachers were allowed to wear "smart" casual, they would look like homeless people.

[Repat Van]

Mar 21, 2024 21:12:33 GMT perrykneeham said:

I can't remember the last time I wore a tie. Who does? Some TV presenters and, of course, teachers ....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-68606577

I thought was at least going to be an article about ties…

[Repat Van]

I think the last time I wore a tie was at school.

I quite like them.

[moggyonspeed]

Yesterday I sat in, as a recent patient, on the Examination Panel for prospective Neurosurgery Consultants in Oxford. All examiners, all candidates, all prospective examiners, and even one of the female ushers (who herself is a junior Neurosurgeon) wore ties. I suspect that each of the examiners was wearing a FRCS (Neuro Surg.) tie to boot, so perhaps wearing a tie goes with their profession. As to whether ties have a function beyond looking professional and smart - well, that's rather debatable.

[Repat Van]

I think ties look very smart. They polish off a suit nicely.

[perrykneeham]

I used to think that. Now, I just think it looks naff and unnatural. I would like to see the cravat make a comeback. Stylish.

[mids]

Or the ever-sophisticated lace jabot.

[perrykneeham]

Mar 22, 2024 10:18:33 GMT moggyonspeed said:

Yesterday I sat in, as a recent patient, on the Examination Panel for prospective Neurosurgery Consultants in Oxford. All examiners, all candidates, all prospective examiners, and even one of the female ushers (who herself is a junior Neurosurgeon) wore ties. I suspect that each of the examiners was wearing a FRCS (Neuro Surg.) tie to boot, so perhaps wearing a tie goes with their profession. As to whether ties have a function beyond looking professional and smart - well, that's rather debatable.

Yeah, I expect we've all been guilty of clan-signaling. School ties, academic associations, MCC ties, regimental ties.

[happyhammerhead]

Times have changed quickly.

As a teenager, at job interviews, blazer and tie at the least was required.

Now, casual dress is often stated as requisite. Which I understand - relaxed is good for getting to know each other.

[mids]

And a few pints.

[happyhammerhead]

If you insist!

[Repat Van]

Mar 22, 2024 13:32:49 GMT happyhammerhead said:

Times have changed quickly.

As a teenager, at job interviews, blazer and tie at the least was required.

Now, casual dress is often stated as requisite. Which I understand - relaxed is good for getting to know each other.

I remember years and years ago, when I was doing my accountancy training, a graduate showed up for a job interview at the firm where I worked wearing jogging bottoms and doc martins.

She did not get the job.

[happyhammerhead]

Still, it might be tempting, if that's all she was wearing...

[perrykneeham]

I was just thinking about the clubbability thing, which is topical as one of the London clubs is under pressure to admit women. The Garrick? Dunno, not my thing.

I don't think I'd want to belong to a club that was men-only, but it's a private club, funded privately, so I don't see how it's anyone else's business.

[mids]

I couldn't be arsed with a club. Maybe if there was a social club on my doorstep I might join.

[perrykneeham]

Everything about this points to a sort of national degeneracy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68665773

A highly educated establishment man, in a prestigious position of trust, flogging national treasures on ebay.

And he was "too poorly" to attend court and answer for his actions.

Could be talking about Gordon Brown of course.

[flatandy]

I'm sure Olivia Colman is right that women actors get paid less than men and it's a bit rotten.

But it feels odd coming from someone who is already paid quite a lot, who won an oscar for a role that only a woman could do. Of all the places to be bothered about pay disparity, Hollywood Starlets wouldn't be the place I'd start:

www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68654311

[perrykneeham]

Yet again, we see the phenomenon of a very wealthy white woman, who's had all manner of advantages, whining because she's being paid the going rate, rather than what she thinks she's worth.