General Election 2024

[mids]

Hahaha, the Starmer worshipping far left are having a breakdown over Big Nige. They cannot stand it. CSI.

[flatandy]

Apparently there was a leaders debate today where both of them lost.

[moggyonspeed]

Jun 4, 2024 21:28:37 GMT mids said:

Hahaha, the Starmer worshipping far left are having a breakdown over Big Nige. They cannot stand it. CSI.

How so? He’ll split the Right’s vote although, interestingly, not in the way he thinks:

Last week, the Tories were on 22%, Reform on 12%. Now that the Wide-mouthed African Tree Frog is in charge, the Tories have gained a point at the expense of Reform. Strange times..

[voice]

Farage is an albatross, rfuk is already seen a drop in their meager support. The right really are desperate to talk him up, but he's lost more deposits than I've had hot dinners

[perrykneeham]

I see Rishi trounced thicko Starmer last night.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmjjzxg7k6no

[mids]

Yes although I didn't see it, Starmer was obviously the big loser.

[mids]

Although these debates are shite. They have proper in depth interviews with the leaders.

[moggyonspeed]

'Top Treasury official's letter casts doubt on Tories' tax attack on Labour' : Fact-checking clearly not the Tories' strong suit ...

A Tory PM lying being a little disingenuous? Not checking the facts? Using their own projections of Labour plans, and then having them fact-checked by some bloke down The Dog & Duck?

Quite frankly, I'm shocked.

[mids]

You're going to be bereft when your lot, Labour, get in.

[perrykneeham]

Jun 5, 2024 10:20:36 GMT moggyonspeed said:

'Top Treasury official's letter casts doubt on Tories' tax attack on Labour' : Fact-checking clearly not the Tories' strong suit ...

A Tory PM lying being a little disingenuous? Not checking the facts? Using their own projections of Labour plans, and then having them fact-checked by some bloke down The Dog & Duck?

Quite frankly, I'm shocked.

Haha. Too little, too late for Stumpy.

[perrykneeham]

Haha. It's brilliant "We was robbed! He was a nevah on side!"

Labour are wailing like a nursery-full of dropped babies. Their boy lost and they just can't stand it. The substantive point about Labour's tax burden has been made and, in the absence of anything other than bluster from Sir Kier, it stands.

[flatandy]

Jun 5, 2024 7:57:14 GMT mids said:

Yes although I didn't see it, Starmer was obviously the big loser.

I think all this is true.

Nobody watched it.

In events like this, the candidate who's at the bottom of the barrel and can't shrink at all (Sunak, 18% of the vote) while someone whose currently got a massively inflated polling position because everyone hates the opposition but has absolutely nothing about him has the opportunity to puncture himself (Starmer).

There's a reason Sunak wanted to make you all suffer through 100 debates in 2 weeks while StarmFront wanted nobody to see him at all. It's not because Sunak's any good. It's because Sunak couldn't sink lower while Starmzy could,

[moggyonspeed]

Jun 5, 2024 10:22:13 GMT mids said:

You're going to be bereft when your lot, Labour, get in.

Can't read, don't read or don't listen - or perhaps all three?

Labour aren't "my lot" - how many more times?

[perrykneeham]

You were headed in that direction though. Admit it.

[mids]

Headed, parked the EV, stuck it on charge, sat down to eat tofu and soya milk while writing out a big fat cheque to sir Keith.

[flatandy]

So, it sounds like Rish! lied about the 2000 quid thing coming from the civil service.

And that Labour knew about it. But decided not to point out that it was a lie.

Because Sir Keith is such a brilliant jurist, and this is the brilliant lawyerly way to win cases, by getting your opponent to state their lies and then having external witnesses point out that you're a liar, thus making the jury think you're untrustworthy on everything.

Except this isn't a trial, and the "jury" being the general public don't give a sh*t about what a commentator in the Spectator says about Rishi lying, and the 2000 quid figure has been repeated all over the place so now it's in the publics' heads.

f**k**g useless crappy arseholes, the pair of them. Can we have a convenient accident at the next debate where a lighting gantry collapses on both podiums?

[moggyonspeed]

Jun 5, 2024 14:26:22 GMT perrykneeham said:

You were headed in that direction though. Admit it.

Clearly if that's what you believe (wrongly o' course) - well, our experience on these boards is that "the bear's not for turning".

Ergo, no.

[perrykneeham]

No, I think a few of us had formed that impression from your general wittering. Happy to be corrected though. Carry on.

[mids]

Good as admitted it.

[perrykneeham]

Haha. More Llabwr woes. He's been top taff for about two months hasn't he?

"First Minister Vaughan Gething loses a no-confidence vote in the Senedd after it is passed 29 votes to 27
Mr Gething was in tears earlier in the Senedd as Labour colleague Vikki Howells spoke in his support
A vote on his leadership comes just 77 days after he was elected to his role leading the Welsh government
The Welsh Conservatives forced the vote after weeks of rows about donations to his leadership campaign
Mr Gething accepted £200,000 for his campaign from a company run by a man who was convicted twice for environmental offences
Mr Gething is set to lose the vote after it was revealed two of his Welsh Labour colleagues - believed to be members who have had fallouts with him - are off sick and won't take part"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-wales-69091623

Bloody hell, what a grubby little shitshow. Never mind, the VoC is "non-binding" apparently and he's not expected to stand down. There's lovely.