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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 19:35:16 GMT
Wow. I didn't know that Keith was a member of the same non-church as me. He always gave the impression that he'd have a Blairite, Blair-lite faith-of-convenience to appeal to the Daily Mail classes. Confusing faith and religion. I don't believe I am |
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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 19:37:55 GMT
The head of state has long-since declared himself to be a supporter of all faiths, and none. What a vacuous thing to say. I am a fan of everything and also non-things. It might be even more vacuous than "all lives matter". |
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Post by wetkingcanute on Jul 12, 2024 19:54:36 GMT
Not necessary so.
Charlie boy is an honourable man.
He found himself "The Defender Of The faith."
He realised that a fairly large proportion of his realm were not C of E so he quite rightly said that he was The defender of the faiths.
In other words in the UK you have the safety to practice your own religion or none at all.
A great many countries wish they a had a Head Of State like that.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 20:00:47 GMT
I understand how he went from Defender of The Faith to Defender of Faiths (although that already feels a bit weird as the original title was directly linked to his role as head of a specific church). Adding in defending non-faiths as well as faiths he might as well have said "I support my subjects".
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:12:18 GMT
And?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:13:31 GMT
Confusing faith and religion. I don't believe I am I'm not sure you understand the difference. |
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Post by mids on Jul 12, 2024 20:13:53 GMT
The King should be the defender of Christianity, Judaism, atheism and maybe agnosticism. He should tell the rest to fuck off.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:15:22 GMT
The head of state has long-since declared himself to be a supporter of all faiths, and none. What a vacuous thing to say. I am a fan of everything and also non-things. It might be even more vacuous than "all lives matter". He didn't say "fan". I see your pet intellectual vacuum agrees. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:21:15 GMT
It's very odd how Pol Pot people get over this. I understand how the 60s generation kicked back against institutionalised deference and church-going. I don't understand the whining about people worshipping, or not, at this stage.
My people don't doff caps or go to church. We don't care to insist we're right, or that we're superior for it.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 20:30:12 GMT
It's not whining about it. It's being pleased that the parliament finally reflects society. If the entire parliament were godless while society was 60% actively religious, that would also be weird.
For the longest time, Britain only had PMs who had a faith. It's still true in the US even though here there are more areligious than there are members of any other group, I believe.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:32:22 GMT
You are certainly whining about it. What possible skin is it off your nose?
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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 20:34:25 GMT
I'm whining about the vacuous statement you reported from the head of state, because it's just meaningless. Where else was I whining. Page and verse, please.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:36:03 GMT
I reported? Your use of the word "fan" is quite whiney, in an adolescent way.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 20:43:07 GMT
It was an analogy, you doofus
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 12, 2024 20:43:55 GMT
You are. Where's the analogy?
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Post by voice on Jul 12, 2024 22:35:01 GMT
Really though, the only thing stupider than having a HoS that's also the head of the official state religion, is choosing a HoS simply cos he came out of the vagina of the last HoS.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 12, 2024 23:16:01 GMT
You are. Where's the analogy? The whole phrase is an analogy. I'm not he's a fan of everything. But being a defender of everything is like being a fan of everything. It's meaningless. Particularly from a head of state whose job, pretty much by definition, is to be (at least nominally) a defender of everything. It's not exactly offensive, but it's like a Miss World contestant saying she wants World Peace. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 5:40:44 GMT
Well, perhaps it would be, if there weren't so many people getting bent out of shape about what other people believe or tunes they dance to uni parties.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 13, 2024 13:31:35 GMT
What on earth has the second thing got to do with the first?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 13:55:44 GMT
Ironically: piety, sanctimonious and illiberalism.
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