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Post by flatandy on Jul 13, 2024 13:56:58 GMT
You're struggling here, aren't you?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 14:07:20 GMT
With what?
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Post by flatandy on Jul 13, 2024 14:24:22 GMT
To try and make some coherent narrative out of wanting to protecting Nazis, and getting upset that people like having a parliament that reflects the country better than before and doesn't feel obliged to give lip service to religion.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 14:33:53 GMT
I'm not bothered by either, even if they happened, but it's amusing to watch how brittle the performative liberalism is.
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Post by mids on Jul 13, 2024 18:33:15 GMT
Are the left still sobbing about a song?
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Post by flatandy on Jul 13, 2024 18:37:07 GMT
Are the right still cheerleading Nazis?
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 13, 2024 18:54:26 GMT
Seculism in government is the ideal. Time we got rid of the state religion and the head of state also being the head of a church I actually don’t care about the head of state being the head of the church as long as in practice religious bodies don’t get to influence our laws. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 13, 2024 18:57:55 GMT
In addition to the lack of religiosity in parliament, the new cabinet had only one member who went private school, plus one at grammar school (Starmer). The other 23 went to Comprehensives. Which is great, and reflects the country much better than any previous cabinet. (94% of the UK public went to state schools) Compare with the combined cabinets of Truss and Sunak which were only 19% state educated. Bollocks. It was fee-paying while Starmer was there. I assume the old direct grant changeover. ,while%20he%20was%20a%20student. “ Starmer passed the 11-plus examination and gained entry to Reigate Grammar School, then a voluntary aided selective grammar school.[11] The school was converted into an independent fee-paying school in 1976, while he was a student. The terms of the conversion were such that his parents were not required to pay for his schooling until he turned 16, and when he reached that point, the school, now a charity, awarded him a bursary that allowed him to complete his education there without any parental contribution.” |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 13, 2024 19:00:38 GMT
The King should be the defender of Christianity, Judaism, atheism and maybe agnosticism. He should tell the rest to fu ck off. Racist. |
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Post by mids on Jul 13, 2024 19:15:03 GMT
Selective religionism.
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Post by voice on Jul 13, 2024 19:45:09 GMT
Seculism in government is the ideal. Time we got rid of the state religion and the head of state also being the head of a church I actually don’t care about the head of state being the head of the church as long as in practice religious bodies don’t get to influence our laws. Remember the Bishops in the HoL do just that, sure not as strong as in the past, but, for example, despite a majority of the UK public supporting some form of assisted dying for those with uncontrolled suffering, the Bishops and the churches have been blocking all efforts to bring it to law. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 19:59:18 GMT
Bishops, shmishops. Lots of folks have reservations about that. It's silly to say it's just a church thing.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 20:01:15 GMT
Bollocks. It was fee-paying while Starmer was there. I assume the old direct grant changeover. ,while%20he%20was%20a%20student. “ Starmer passed the 11-plus examination and gained entry to Reigate Grammar School, then a voluntary aided selective grammar school.[11] The school was converted into an independent fee-paying school in 1976, while he was a student. The terms of the conversion were such that his parents were not required to pay for his schooling until he turned 16, and when he reached that point, the school, now a charity, awarded him a bursary that allowed him to complete his education there without any parental contribution.” So, I'm right. I told you that, and not for the first time. Whichever way you cut it, he benefited from a privately funded education. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 20:02:25 GMT
He had a bursary at a private school. Quitem Oh, a charity that you would destroy, BTW.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 13, 2024 20:19:56 GMT
Obviously, we should get rid of fee paying schools and the archaic grammar school system to prevent this kind of thing happening.
It is also not surprising that Starmzy is one of the two outliers here.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 20:27:35 GMT
I'm not sure why "reflecting the country" is important. Many of them could even be bothered to vote.
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Post by flatandy on Jul 13, 2024 20:29:51 GMT
It means that politicians can be who they actually are rather than having to put on a performance of religion because they think it's the only way they can win elections.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 13, 2024 20:36:38 GMT
You're making a ridiculous leap there. Ridiculous.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 15, 2024 17:07:58 GMT
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Post by mids on Jul 15, 2024 17:54:59 GMT
Fair enough although I'm very skeptical about the prevalence of spiking with drugs other than alcohol. It always seems to rely on drunk non-doctors diagnosing themselves.
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