No Sex On First Date?!

[yord]

Jesus wont watch

[Beachcomber]

200 posts ?.......... our longest running thread to date and it's all about SEX !

[dwad]

1. Eh? You'll have to explain that to me cos it makee no sense at all. Type slowly.

You were just saying that people can decide but this board shows all the hang-ups. Just seems it's those (ie me) making a decision and the rest working through your hang-ups. I'm being mildly facetious but also making the point that you can be hugely pro sex as a good thing with no hang-ups but think that it is best with certain restrictions.

2. Fine, again your reasons are yours and cannot therefore be anything other than good, unless you secretly regret your missed chances and I believe you when you say you don't. I bloody would, but like I said, people are different.

Sure but I am pointing out that it is about deciding for some people, not how hung-up they are.

3. Cheese, probably

So it doesn't have to be about sex?

[dwad]

Jan 21, 2009 10:55:25 GMT yord said:

Go on dwad , get yourself a w.hore , you know you want to lol

LOL - yeah - that is ded funnee.

[VikingHumpingWitch]

You were just saying that people can decide but this board shows all the hang-ups. Just seems it's those (ie me) making a decision and the rest working through your hang-ups. I'm being mildly facetious but also making the point that you can be hugely pro sex as a good thing with no hang-ups but think that it is best with certain restrictions.

You made a decision based on your hangups, is what I'm saying. For whatever reason you regard sex as a major step. I don't. I of course have my own hangups which other people may think are perfectly fine - for instance I would never get involved in a threesome for fear of future emotional consequences. But there are people around who can cheerfully take part in such a thing and not suffer any consequences. So it's just my hangup. People are different.

Sure but I am pointing out that it is about deciding for some people, not how hung-up they are.

Again, I think those decisions are based on hangups. And incidentally I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having them, just that you should accept them for what they are and not even think about inflicting them on anyone else.

So it doesn't have to be about sex?

Well you said "if I was asexual". It's a bit like asking me what would be my favourite food if I was a cat. I really can't imagine. But if I had no interest in sex, or was unable to have it, I guess I would devote my life to the acquisition and consumption of cheese.

Apologies in advance if I mess this needlessly complex quotey thing up.

[dwad]

Nah, I'm just not buying it. You are basically either asserting that a person cannot think rationally about sex or that a person's reason can only revolve around hang-ups in any given situation. I just can't see that. Just like we can all look at policy and come to different conclusions on what is right, the same is true of sex. It's not about a level of hang-up necessarily but can be about a rational evaluation of the facts.

"It's a bit like asking me what would be my favourite food if I was a cat. I really can't imagine."

Which would seem to say that your life revolves around sex but not everybody's does. ie it's not that everybody's choices are all about sex, it's just that you can't imagine any different.

[ricklinc]

[Deleted]

Talking about sex is sh*t that's for sure!

[VikingHumpingWitch]

Nah, I'm just not buying it. You are basically either asserting that a person cannot think rationally about sex or that a person's reason can only revolve around hang-ups in any given situation. I just can't see that. Just like we can all look at policy and come to different conclusions on what is right, the same is true of sex. It's not about a level of hang-up necessarily but can be about a rational evaluation of the facts.

I'm not saying people cannot think rationally about sex. I can. Vania can. Feral can. The vast majority of the population of Sweden can. I'm saying some people can't because they are hung up on it. I blame Society (in the UK). I also think the reasons why people come to different conclusions about the same policy is down to hangups, although we might want to call them opinions or beliefs - I happen to have a hangup about the lack of social mobility in the UK so I will support policies that aim to improve this. Someone else might have a hangup about poor people just being lazy b'stards and will therefore oppose the same policy.

Which would seem to say that your life revolves around sex but not everybody's does. ie it's not that everybody's choices are all about sex, it's just that you can't imagine any different.

Exactly my point. People are different. The choices you made were right for you and the choices I made were right for me, even though they were different choices. I cannot imagine denying myself sex when I wanted it and he wanted, what's the point? I would only do that, I contend, if I had a bit of a hangup about sex and regarded it as a major step.

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My first date was in a dustbin shed behind a block of flats and we felt each others parts

[VikingHumpingWitch]

Jan 21, 2009 11:25:37 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

My first date was in a dustbin shed behind a block of flats and we felt each others parts

I think I've got a hang up about "dating". The thought of going for a meal with a near stranger sounds a lot more stressful than a feel up behind a shed.

[minge tightly]

Dear me, this entire thread just reminds me how little sex I get now i'm a married father to what I used to get.

Cheers

[yord]

its just something that happens when your mam gives you a clip round the ear for getting hard when watching pans people and saying " dirty boy "

[VikingHumpingWitch]

One of the MDs at my firm is married to one of Pan's People. Want to touch me (not like that you perv, we haven't even dated yet)?

[Deleted]

She also let me suck her gobstopper

[yord]

if only she time it to the ejaculation things might have been sooo different

[Deleted]

I don't ejaculate

[Deleted]

I have a headache.

[dwad]

I'm not saying people cannot think rationally about sex. I can. Vania can. Feral can. The vast majority of the population of Sweden can.

Ah, I see, the acid test. Do you agree with VHW? Yes, you are rational / No, you are hung-up.

I also think the reasons why people come to different conclusions about the same policy is down to hangups,
The choices you made were right for you and the choices I made were right for me, even though they were different choices.

Surely these two parts of your post above though are contrdictory. They can't be both choices and hang-ups for both of us can they?

I cannot imagine denying myself sex when I wanted it and he wanted, what's the point? I would only do that, I contend, if I had a bit of a hangup about sex and regarded it as a major step.

Because ( a few reasons): on the pro side, I want sex. On the con side, I don't know his history or indeed much about him at all beyond the few tequilla shots we shared, I might get pregnant, it might just be crap, I might regret it myself, I might regret when I meet somebody else, he might be my brother, he may have shagged my best mate, he may be in it for more than me, or vice versa, there are a million thngs you can weigh up if you want to that can outweigh: I want.

[VikingHumpingWitch]

Ah, I see, the acid test. Do you agree with VHW? Yes, you are rational / No, you are hung-up.

Nope. I accept your reasons for waiting until marriage as being entirely rational. I just think that for a lot of people the decision to withhold sex is based on hang ups - why else would women feel it necessary to wait and men do not? Hang up.

Surely these two parts of your post above though are contrdictory. They can't be both choices and hang-ups for both of us can they?

See above.

Because ( a few reasons): on the pro side, I want sex. On the con side, I don't know his history or indeed much about him at all beyond the few tequilla shots we shared, I might get pregnant, it might just be poo, I might regret it myself, I might regret when I meet somebody else, he might be my brother, he may have shagged my best mate, he may be in it for more than me, or vice versa, there are a million thngs you can weigh up if you want to that can outweigh: I want.

Fine. I don't need to know someone's life history to have sex with them, I use condoms, if it's poo so what, why would I regret it when I meet someone else, my parents had only one child, it's very unlikely he shagged my best mate and if he did so what, whatever he's in it for is up to him so long as I've made it clear where I stand, if I'm in it for more than him I'll say so. Big believer in openness.

I'm saying they are all good reasons for you and that's fine. They don't weigh much with me.