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Post by tarrant on Jan 22, 2009 11:57:32 GMT
The negativity.
There has always been some who look on the dark side of everything. Some of these seem to be proud of it, especially if they can be sarchastic with it.
But especially in the last 30 or so years, the negativity brigade seem to have developed a hatred for this country.
The weather in the British Isles is what it is and always has been. Periods of cold are times to do some things, periods of hot are times to do others.
If you don't like it go somewhere else.
We have democracy here. Governments represent the voters choice. In the 80s all we heard from the negativity brigade was . This Tory government..... That Tory government...., as if there was another.
Now these people come out with statement like, 'God, I hate this government.
As if that is so astonishingly new and revealing, and of such interest to the rest of us that we need to hear it again for the umteenth time.
If these people hate the way we govern this country they can leave.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 22, 2009 12:01:44 GMT
Sorry Tarrent, it says "junior member" under your username, not "arbiter of all that may and may not be said on this board". If you don't like what's posted here you can leave.
Edit: BTW, I hate this government. And I've already left, so stick that up your jacksie and give it a really good wiggle.
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Post by reverend on Jan 22, 2009 12:04:38 GMT
political correctness and though police mentality bother me the most, people going round fanatically seeking any minute detail they can be offended about!
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Post by peakman on Jan 22, 2009 12:09:24 GMT
We have a democracy. Surely that should read "We had a democracy". Now Angloland has become the fiefdom of a Scottish robber baron". Oh and there is too much I.D. theft around. 
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Post by tarrant on Jan 22, 2009 12:11:24 GMT
Well VHW, I do apologise for expressing an opinion that differes from yours.
You may well feel that it was attempting to steal your thunder.
I have lived in a number of countries. The problems here exist everywhere, but local traditions differ as to how these are expressed.
Only in the UK does this come out as hatred of the entire country.
PS. I too don't like this government. I didn't like the last one or the one before that. But We all have to live with it.
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Post by Beachcomber on Jan 22, 2009 12:13:50 GMT
Oh, I don't think it's expressed as 'Hatred' Tarrant. More like resignation.  |
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Post by mids on Jan 22, 2009 12:18:44 GMT
Oh yeah, I hate it when people whine about negativity on a thread specifically designed to be about negative things.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 22, 2009 12:21:40 GMT
Well VHW, I do apologise for expressing an opinion that differes from yours. That's absolutely fine with me. It was your attempt to stop anyone expressing one that differs from yours that I found a bit pompous. If people are unhappy with their government they have every right to say so, THAT is democracy. If you would prefer to spend all day discussing puppies and kittens and balloons and ice cream go ahead, I think the chitchat board is still going. |
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Post by tarrant on Jan 22, 2009 12:23:18 GMT
Oh, I don't think it's expressed as 'Hatred' Tarrant. More like resignation. Possibly. But it does tend to get in the way of constructive discussion. The doom merchants have been predicting the imminent fall of this country for at least decades. Yet it always survives. |
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Post by greenergrass on Jan 22, 2009 12:25:34 GMT
What also scares me is the number of fat people in Britain. Everywhere I go I see fat people. We are an island. At some point we will sink and I am not a very good swimmer.
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Post by thenomad on Jan 22, 2009 12:25:33 GMT
I fear the most evil thing that the country has had to face since the Second World War, and that is the $^*&&*^(*() @$$# #@%$^%^%#%% members of ZaNuLabour and every single one of the evil b@stards who are now intent on destroying the country as much as they can before they are thrown out of office.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 22, 2009 12:26:23 GMT
Scares? Interesting question.
I think there's very little that scares me about Britain. There's lots that depresses me about it. There's lots that's quite unlikeable in modern Britain. Although a lot of that is actually the same attitudes carried through generations.
But there's not much that's actually scary. It's a fairly feeble place where people are too busy being cynical or aloof or whatever, to actually be committed enough to do anything scary. Fairly rule-abiding, too, so even cycling in London isn't that scary.
The closest, I suppose, comes when you're in a dodgy part of Streatham at the wrong end of the day. Or, as Mids says, the slow erosion of civil liberties, which isn't directly worrying but which creates opportunities in the future if anyone wants to take advantage.
I suppose I'm slightly worried by the obsession with moving away from reason, from science; the obsession with the past, and the obsession with the idea that individuals opinions are more important than facts, and an expert should be valued no more greatly than anyone else. An utterly false extension of the democratic idea, brought about by a million phone ins on retarded radio stations.
This stupid attitude could seep through and lead to even worse lowest-common-denominator policy making, as the electorate will refuse to accept that we should defer to experts in particular fields, at least to the extent that they should advise us.
But really, if that's the scariest thing about the country, it's not very scary.
If you asked me what depressed me about Britain, or what was utterly rank about Britain, I could spend hours and hours and hours, though.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 22, 2009 12:28:11 GMT
That's absolutely fine with me. It was your attempt to stop anyone expressing one that differs from yours that I found a bit pompous. If people are unhappy with their government they have every right to say so, THAT is democracy. Quite. And if people are a little tired of hearing the same negative statements, 'God I hate this government', they have a right to say so. That is liberty. Another element in our society. Your claim that I was trying to stop others discussing presumably doesn't include you and several others who contributed after me. Equally, it can be said that you are trying to stop anyone saying anything that disagrees with you. But you already think you're right so I don't suppose it counts. Your post is an excellent example of the very point I made. The negativity brigade have become agressive. |
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Post by reverend on Jan 22, 2009 12:29:48 GMT
oh dear, pregnant dog fight!
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 22, 2009 12:30:11 GMT
Equally, it can be said that you are trying to stop anyone saying anything that disagrees with you. But you already think you're right so I don't suppose it counts. No. I said I am fine with you disagreeing with me. I am not fine with you telling people that if they breathe a word against the ruling party they should leave the country. FFS, no wonder you think Robert Mugabe is such a top bloke. I know I'm right and you, frankly, are a bit of a plonker. |
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Post by mids on Jan 22, 2009 12:31:29 GMT
Oh, shutup Tarrant.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 22, 2009 12:31:36 GMT
I'm with Tarrant in my hate for the negativity in Britain. It's just so utterly miserable.
But it doesn't scare me. It just stifles the country horribly. Thing is, it always has, in my lifetime at least. The desperate cynical desire not to get engaged in anything because all the cool people are just looking down their noses and making snide comments and that's where all the credibility is at. Achieving things is viewed as a bit aggressive and un-English.
And it's completely pervasive, from going out on dates, the British girls are all cynical and rude and a bit unpleasant (almost all foreign girls actually seem to enjoy life and can tell you what they like, British ones will just be rude about things and tell you what they don't like, and hate to be enthusiastic about anything), to how politics is run - where being a politician who does stuff is apparently bad, but being Richard Littlejohn or Mark Thomas, just being rude and cynical and unpleasant about everything, is cool and excellent and to be admired.
It's utterly rubbish. And means the country goes ever further backwards into its introspective, miserable, snide, mire. But it's not scary.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 22, 2009 12:33:28 GMT
No. I said I am fine with you disagreeing with me. I am not fine with you telling people that if they breathe a word against the ruling party they should leave the country. FFS, no wonder you think Robert Mugabe is such a top bloke. I know I'm right and you, frankly, are a bit of a plonker. That is the very point I made. If anyone doesn't tow the line they are pro-Labour, Anti-American, anti-semetic. Then round off your missive with a insult. Very nice!! |
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Post by flatandy on Jan 22, 2009 12:33:40 GMT
Hmm. That post reads a little like "Girls all cheat at pool", and it shouldn't. British blokes are just as crap as British birds.
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Post by reverend on Jan 22, 2009 12:33:40 GMT
your so negative Andy!
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