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Post by tarrant on Jan 28, 2009 0:12:40 GMT
Possibly Mr Martel.
You do seem to be lost for an argument.
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Post by Beachcomber on Jan 28, 2009 0:17:33 GMT
Yadda, Yadda, yadda, ........let's get back to the naked thing.
We're all born naked and the only differentiation is the uniform we wear and the flags we wave.
(If God had wanted us to run around nude - we would've been born that way)
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Post by Charles Martel on Jan 28, 2009 0:21:07 GMT
Point of order Tarrant: Twas you who raised Israel/Palestine on this thread. And I think you are beyond pathetic to genuinely believe that many Jewish people see the holocaust as a 'goldmine' because it means they got their own state. Do you truly believe that? I did raise it here. It seems to be raised whenever Israel is discussed. Is there any other country in the world, in the history of the world that to criticise brings accusations of race hatred and aspirations to revive the Murders of WW2? As for your second point What sort of place would Israel be if the murders had not occured? Would it even exist? Which country, anywhere, ever, would get away with the sort of Nazi behaviour that Israel routinely gets away with with such impunity? China invaded Tibet. World wide condemnation. Rightly. Can you hear the protests of anti-sino-ism from the Chinese? Russia invaded numerous countries. Worldwide protests. Rightly. Did you hear any protests of anti-slavism from the Russians? You are so ignorant and hate-filled you don't even realize that the world hold Jews and Israel to different standards is precisely the point. What other country in the world have to continually defend its own right of existence? Does America need to defend its right to exist? Does Britain? China? Pakistan was carved out of British India out of similar circumstances in the same era. Nobody questions Pakistan's legimiate right to sovereignty. Nobody seeks to undo the Jinnah entity. You say there is a lack of protest against Israel in comparison with China and Russia. You must be completely blind, as well an anti-Semite to boot. Last I checked, Tibetans have never committed any acts of violence against the Chinese (which I am one myself). The Dalai Lama is - beyond any doubt - an agent of peace. How China escapes international sanction and UN Resolutions over its brutal suppression of Tibet is beyond me. How the Soviet Union got away with its gross violations of the rights and dignity of mankind is, again, beyond me. I guess that is the material difference between having large population and superpowerdom, versus a tiny, helpless state devoid of oil. The Christian East Timorese got the sh*t end of the stick for decades. The Darfurese are victims today. A world that relies on Muslim oil will vote for the interests of the 55 Muslim-majority countries. Keep peddling your hate and filth. You are so transparently hateful that those on this forum who I normally don't associate as Israel supporters are condemning you. |
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Post by lawrence on Jan 28, 2009 0:50:52 GMT
Intellectually there really is no similarity between Israel today and the Nazis . Israel is not a fascist dictatorship, does not practice national socialism has no stated philosophy of being superior to others and is not intent on rapid expansion. To call Israel "Nazi" is obviously an attempt to equate her with the regime that murdered so many Jews and is a very real sign of intrinsic racism. You may not even admit it to your self but if you find yourself referring to Israel as Nazis you should take an honest look at your self. If you do you will likely be disgusted.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 28, 2009 1:54:54 GMT
You say there is a lack of protest against Israel in comparison with China and Russia. You must be completely blind, as well an anti-Semite to boot. Keep peddling your hate and filth. You are so transparently hateful that those on this forum who I normally don't associate as Israel supporters are condemning you. I said nothing of the kind. But it is very revealing of you that you seem only able to read what you want to see. Also very sad. |
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Post by Marshall on Jan 28, 2009 1:55:44 GMT
Some people have minds fine enough to discern and classify the differences between the timbre of two saxophonists or the variations in two similar varietals of wine.
Apparently Tarrant is unable to distinguish the differences between Nazis and Jews and between soldiers and suicide bombers (although he does give the latter kudos for "looking in the eyes" of his victims right before he blows them up).
He likes to think this makes him open-minded when in fact it reflects a weak mind. If nothing else, it's good for a laugh.
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Post by Charles Martel on Jan 28, 2009 7:30:19 GMT
You say there is a lack of protest against Israel in comparison with China and Russia. You must be completely blind, as well an anti-Semite to boot. Keep peddling your hate and filth. You are so transparently hateful that those on this forum who I normally don't associate as Israel supporters are condemning you. I said nothing of the kind. But it is very revealing of you that you seem only able to read what you want to see. Also very sad. You are obviously too dumb to even understand what you wrote. Shame. |
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Post by limeylily on Jan 28, 2009 9:52:35 GMT
Well, there's the Islamic Republic of Khartoum No there isn't. The comparison isn't between Israel and other mass-murdering entities but about Israel as a colonial power where European Zionists set up a colony in Arab Palestine. What colony are you on about Berty? There were Jews living in Palestine and throughout the Middle East as second class citizens (Dhimmis) in Arab lands - before they were ethnically cleansed by the Arab states, that is. The first Arab Palestine state was (and is) Jordan (80% of British mandated Palestine). It was the remaining 20% that was to be partitioned by UN Resolution #181 into two states, one Jewish and a second Arab state. Israel accepted partition and the Arabs refused and have been attacking and libelling Israel ever since. I guess self governing Jews in an otherwise all-Islamic Middle East was more than the racist Muslims could bear. You'd actually have a better case if you cited Pakistan as a colonial power, being carved out of India with millions of hindus and sikhs slaughtered and displaced to make room for the Indian Muslims' demand for a separate state. Or you could cite the forced separation of Greece and Turkey, naming Turkey as the colonial power . Oh wait, it's only Jews you're interested in maligning and only Israel you think has no right to exist! |
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Post by vania on Jan 28, 2009 10:00:46 GMT
Tarrant. I understand the problem. To you anybody who kills somebody else (irrespective of the reason) is a Nazi.
Hence why you heep getting confused.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 28, 2009 12:51:10 GMT
Can anyone name two countries where it or its supporters that respond to any criticism with accusations of racism?
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 12:52:47 GMT
Can anyone name two countries where it or its supporters that respond to any criticism with accusations of racism? Zimbabwe is one. |
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Post by tarrant on Jan 28, 2009 13:37:25 GMT
Never heard Mugabe ranting to other Africans that their criticism of him is because they don't like black people. Mugabe complains that Britain wants to re-establish colonialism. That is a different matter from accusing anyone who offers any sort of criticism of racism. Link added: www.sadc.int/ |
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Post by limeylily on Jan 29, 2009 20:41:51 GMT
Can anyone name two countries where it or its supporters that respond to any criticism with accusations of racism? Sure Tarrant... after you name two other countries that, in your opinion, don't have the right to exist! |
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Post by Libby on Jan 29, 2009 20:44:55 GMT
 ? Sorry libby. I was replying to New Yorker's assertion that the survival of the fittest is a suitable criteria to take possession of land. No probs icas! ;D |
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Post by tarrant on Jan 29, 2009 20:55:59 GMT
Sure Tarrant... after you name two other countries that, in your opinion, don't have the right to exist! What is that suppose to mean? How can a country not have a right to exist? |
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Post by limeylily on Jan 29, 2009 21:19:33 GMT
Sure Tarrant... after you name two other countries that, in your opinion, don't have the right to exist! What is that suppose to mean? How can a country not have a right to exist? I'm waiting for you to tell me that Tarrant. |
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Post by limeylily on Jan 29, 2009 21:23:07 GMT
What is that suppose to mean? How can a country not have a right to exist? I'm waiting for you to tell me that Tarrant. I'm also waiting for your explanation of how many other countries who retaliate against blatant terrorist aggression to protect its citizens you brand as fascist dictatorships. |
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Post by tarrant on Jan 29, 2009 21:29:10 GMT
I'm waiting for you to tell me that Tarrant. I'm also waiting for your explanation of how many other countries who retaliate against blatant terrorist aggression to protect its citizens you brand as fascist dictatorships. To the first if I knew what you were on about I might try. To the second I would never do such a thing. |
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Post by limeylily on Jan 29, 2009 22:51:10 GMT
I'm also waiting for your explanation of how many other countries who retaliate against blatant terrorist aggression to protect its citizens you brand as fascist dictatorships. To the first if I knew what you were on about I might try. To the second I would never do such a thing. I wonder why it is that you antisemitic turds and neo Nazis never have the courage to admit you're Jew haters and hide behind the "Zionist" label until you slip up and the word "Jew" pops out inadvertently. You criticise Israel for defending itself and its people against terrorist attacks - not because you're aantisemitic (oh no... not you!), but because "Nazi Zionist Israelis" are "murderers". Israelis who kill those that attack its people Tarrant are not murderers, nor are they Nazis - they're exercising their right to defend their people and will continue to exercise that right. They're not leaving and when Hamas accept that little fact, maybe they'll stop using the Gazans who voted for them as cannon fodder. |
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Post by tarrant on Jan 29, 2009 23:17:29 GMT
And I wonder why the apologists for Nazi Zionism claim any criticism is anti-semetic.
The only country in the world where, to criticise it, is racist.
Living off the dead of WW2
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