Holocaust Memorial Day

[mingthemerciless]

Who cares?
I just wish that both sides would get on with it, and wipe each other out down to the last man, woman and child.

[reverend]

Dad is that you?

[limeylily]

Jan 29, 2009 23:17:29 GMT @tarrant said:

And I wonder why the apologists for Nazi Zionism claim any criticism is anti-semetic.

The only country in the world where, to criticise it, is racist.

Living off the dead of WW2

The Council holocaust memorial service I went to Tarrant, as I've already mentioned, was for the Jewish holocaust, Darfur, Rwanda, Bosnia, etc. The speakers included 2 rabbis, 2 catholic priests, a CofE priest, a hindu cleric and a lad from the local comprehensive school. Notably absent were representatives from the local mosque who presumably share your view regarding Holocaust Memorial Day and the Jewish connection.

As for your antisemitism Tarrant (which has been remarked upon by diverse posters on this thread) as Abraham Lincoln said:
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. ..."

[bertrus2]

Notably absent were representatives from the local mosque

Perhaps the were uncomfortable about the lack of recognition of Operation Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza and the long list of crimes committed against Palestinians and other Arabs by Israel and the West.

[limeylily]

Jan 30, 2009 16:47:27 GMT bertrus2 said:

Notably absent were representatives from the local mosque

Perhaps the were uncomfortable about the lack of recognition of Operation Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza and the long list of crimes committed against Palestinians and other Arabs by Israel and the West.

And then again, it's possible the absence of Muslims at Holocaust Memorial Services had more to do with the embarassment of the slaughter being perpetrated in Darfur by The Sudanese Islamic Government and their Arab militia against their fellow Muslims.

However, given your obsession with the Warsaw Ghetto, Berty, anyone might think you actually knew something about it or even cared about the men, women and children, who had committed no crime, crammed into the hellhole slowly starving to death before they were removed for a speedier death. We all know your sympathies lie with the Gazan terrorists and their leaders (safely bunkered down in Damascus and Beirut) who bombarded Israeli civilians with rockets for 8 years. Imagine where your chosen people, the "Palestinians", would be if they'd actually put their energy into creating a state rather than attempting to destroy one. Nope, no comparison with Warsaw at all, except in your tiny mind!

[tarrant]

There seems little point in having a day set aside to remember mass murder in WW2, the so called Holocaust, when it contunies under the current generation of Nazis.

[Charles Martel]

Jan 31, 2009 0:50:34 GMT @tarrant said:

There seems little point in having a day set aside to remember mass murder in WW2, the so called Holocaust, when it contunies under the current generation of Nazis.

Am I reading this right? The "so-called" Holocaust.

Keep typing, you fool. With each hate-filled utterance where you trivialise the murder of six million, and then insult their memory with woefully absurd comparisons (the other component of minimisation), you expose yourself as the scumbag neo-Nazi that you are.

[limeylily]

Jan 31, 2009 0:50:34 GMT @tarrant said:

There seems little point in having a day set aside to remember mass murder in WW2, the so called Holocaust, when it contunies under the current generation of Nazis.

You're referring of course to your membership in the unholy alliance of neonazis, Islamofascists, and their left wing and psychopathic supporters.

[bertrus2]

An key aspect of the Gaza onslaught was that the area was sealed off and there was no escape while the killing was going on. This is one point where the comparison with the Warsaw Ghetto Uprisng is particularly relevant. This is highlighted by Richard Falk, professor of international law. Of course, he is biased against criminals, so that 'bias' has to be taken into account when he comments on Israel's crimes.

"There is evidence that Israel committed war crimes during its 22-day campaign in the Gaza Strip and there should be an independent inquiry, UN investigator Richard Falk said Thursday. Falk, speaking by phone from his home in California, said compelling evidence that Israel's actions in Gaza violated international humanitarian law required an independent investigation into whether they amounted to war crimes. ...

Falk said Israel had made no effort to allow civilians to escape the fighting.

"To lock people into a war zone is something that evokes the worst kind of international memories of the Warsaw Ghetto, ...," Falk, who is Jewish, said, referring to the starvation and murder of Warsaw's Jews by Nazi Germany in World War II.

"There could have been temporary provision at least made for children, disabled, sick civilians to leave, even if where they left to was southern Israel," the U.S. professor said. ...

Falk... dismissed Israel's argument that the assault was for self-defense in the light of rocket attacks aimed at Israel from the Hamas-ruled Gaza strip.

"In my view the UN charter, and international law, does not give Israel the legal foundation for claiming self-defense," he said. Haaretz (Israeli newspaper)
tinyurl.com/dgp5bz

[Victor Meldrew]

There seems little point in having a day set aside to remember mass murder in WW2, the so called Holocaust

Just for your information, that'so called Holocaust' wiped out three of my grandparents, you pathetic piece of sh*t.

[limeylily]

Jan 31, 2009 11:43:01 GMT Victor Meldrew said:

There seems little point in having a day set aside to remember mass murder in WW2, the so called Holocaust

Just for your information, that'so called Holocaust' wiped out three of my grandparents, you pathetic piece of sh*t.

It wiped out whole families VM and the cretins like Bert and Tarrant who parrot the words of the neo nazis and Islamofascists actually think that it's been forgotten.

[bertrus2]

parrot the words of the neo nazis and Islamofascists

Richard Falk, emeritus professor of international law and UN human rights observer? You're anti-Semitic as well as a nutcase.

Falk said Israel had made no effort to allow civilians to escape the fighting.

"To lock people into a war zone is something that evokes the worst kind of international memories of the Warsaw Ghetto, ...," Falk, who is Jewish, said,
tinyurl.com/dgp5bz

[bertrus2]

that'so called Holocaust' wiped out three of my grandparents

What a pity it would be if your sense of humanity died with them.

[limeylily]

Jan 31, 2009 11:33:24 GMT bertrus2 said:

"Falk... dismissed Israel's argument that the assault was for self-defense in the light of rocket attacks aimed at Israel from the Hamas-ruled Gaza strip."

Perhaps someone should have reminded the learned Mr Falk of the biased UN that aiming rockets at Israeli civilians was in itself a war crime as was uisng civilians as shields to protect terrorists while those who gave the orders were sheltered in Beirut and Damascus. The Laws of War clearly state that those who deliberately place civilians in danger are responsible for the damage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_war
Parties are bound by the laws of war to the extent that such compliance does not interfere with achieving legitimate military goals. For example, they are obliged to make every effort to avoid damaging people and property not involved in combat, but they are not guilty of a war crime if a bomb mistakenly hits a residential area.

By the same token, combatants that use protected people or property as shields or camouflage are guilty of violations of laws of war and are responsible for damage to those that should be protected

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[silkbreeze]

in israel, 'yom ha'shoah' (holocaust day) is observed on a different day to the uk....movies, talks etc., will be on tv....every year hundreds of israeli schoolkids visit the camps....to some, it is hard to accept that such atrocities happened.....how could it to a mostly assimilated and productive element of society....and along with millions of jews, including one million children, anyone who didn't fit in with the aryan dream were murdered - and not all jews....however, if the jewish people wish to keep the memory alive anywhich way, then it is not only to their benefit, but to the benefit of others....unfortunately, in this age of short attention span and sound bytes, new horrors fight for the spotlight - get those effing yids out of the way - there are more horrors, just the same, worse......
the situation in gaza is terrible, too many people have died, too many people have killed and been killed....collective punishment from israel, a corrupt governing body after another within palestine killing their own....
however, warsaw ghetto it is not, nazism it is not
charles, i am sorry for your loss....

[limeylily]

Jan 31, 2009 11:57:36 GMT bertrus2 said:

parrot the words of the neo nazis and Islamofascists

Richard Falk, emeritus professor of international law and UN human rights observer? You're anti-Semitic as well as a nutcase.

And you're a pathetic neo Nazi turd Berty, but that's nothing new.

I take it Mr Falk, esteemed UN human rights observer, is also completely blind as he and his equally blind UN colleagues failed to notice rockets passing overhead from Gaza on their way to their Israeli civilian targets over a period of 8 years.

[limeylily]

Jan 31, 2009 12:03:43 GMT bertrus2 said:

that'so called Holocaust' wiped out three of my grandparents

What a pity it would be if your sense of humanity died with them.

I doubt that a sickening troll such as you knows the first thing about humanity!

[bertrus2]

parrot the words of the neo nazis and Islamofascists llilly

Rather than 'parrot' the words of Gerald Kaufmann about Israel's crimes in Gaza, I'll let him speak for himself, (with all due deference for Limey's expertise in intenational humanitarian law).

[tarrant]

Jan 31, 2009 11:43:01 GMT Victor Meldrew said:

There seems little point in having a day set aside to remember mass murder in WW2, the so called Holocaust

Just for your information, that'so called Holocaust' wiped out three of my grandparents, you pathetic piece of sh*t.

Just for your information the murders of WW2 killed your grandparents and millions of other innocent people.

My father fought in WW2 along side his brothers and my mother's brothers.

The Label holocaust was applied in 1979 after a film by Steven Spielberg.

Prior to that it was just called the death camps. Often the event was described as a holocaust. But never before was the event, or more specifically, the murder of Jews in isolation to the majority of others, labelled in such a candy cane fashion.

You cheapen the memory of your grandparents by going along with this tacky Hollywood promotion.

It suits the Nazis in Israel because they don't care about your grandparents any more than they care about you or the many people of all origins who are dying.

The Nazis in Israel are using you.

Evidenced by your response to anyone who dares to stand up to them of being anti-Semitic.

Israel is your enemy, not us.

[limeylily]

"Rather than 'parrot' the words of Gerald Kaufmann about Israel's crimes in Gaza, I'll let him speak for himself, (with all due deference for Limey's expertise in intenational humanitarian law)." - Bertrus

It's been some time since you wheeled out the useful Jewish idiot, Gerald Kaufman (another re-run following yoru other favourite Robert Fisk?). Your tactics never change troll - I reckon it's about time for you to resurrect the Naturei Karta loonies to back up your antisemitic diatribes and complete your never ending malicious libel against Jews and Israel.

It's a mistake, I know to feed a Troll, so that's all you'll get from me today.