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Post by jonren on Jan 28, 2009 6:24:25 GMT
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Post by Scooby Do on Jan 28, 2009 6:53:17 GMT
Our local school has a teacher who the kids find almost impossible to understand. He is the English Teacher
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Post by Chromo on Jan 28, 2009 7:02:18 GMT
I teach English as a foreign language here, which is hard enough because it is so crap.
Did you know that 'ghoti' is pronounced 'fish' by English standards?
F as in tough I as in women S as in motion H
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Post by Charles Martel on Jan 28, 2009 7:26:14 GMT
With one stroke of the pen, Gordon Brown can shift the goalposts of "integration" by making Urdu and Arabic official languages of the United Kingdom. With a second stroke of the pen, the school curriculum will be modified to state that the UK was always a multilingual country, and at no time was English the sole official language of the country. All evidence indicating otherwise is to be promptly destroyed in the "memory hole" located on the third floor of the Ministry of (Re)Education.
Welcome to Great Britain. It is 1984!
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Post by jonren on Jan 28, 2009 7:42:14 GMT
Me has speaked englesh all my loaf and sea not reesen too chenge noo.
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Post by limeylily on Jan 28, 2009 9:09:41 GMT
Me has speaked englesh all my loaf and sea not reesen too chenge noo. And zear I tort you was only pissing by on wei to uvver plaice.
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Post by jonren on Jan 28, 2009 9:16:37 GMT
Something fishy about that, Limey xx
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 9:25:47 GMT
Hopefully the local authorities involved have made provisions for extra English language tuition.
Incidentally, in Sweden if your native tongue is not Swedish the state guarantees you a certain amount of teaching in your mother tongue each month. This is surely Not Right, I cannot begin to imagine the outrage if such a thing were even to be suggested in the UK.
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Post by Victor Meldrew on Jan 28, 2009 9:35:33 GMT
I went 'back to my roots' a short whle ago, some 35 years since I left my primary school in Tower Hamlets. It was lunch time when I got there, and the kids were happily playing in the playground. From having looked through the gates for a few minutes, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was one of the schools with 100% of pupils using English as a second language.
As the kids ran about and shouted at each other, I didn't hear any words spoken in English.The really worrying thing here is that when I was at this school in the late sixties/early seventies, an Asian population was already moving into the area. The majority of these new residents had settled in east London, either having come from Bangladesh or having been kicked out of Uganda by Idi Amin. Therefore, these aren't first or second generation Asians, but are more likely to be fourth generation. Yet still, they continue to use a language as their main tongue which hasn't been spoken by their families as their resident nation's first language for over 30 years. Rather than trying to adapt in terms of language, many streets in the area now have Bangladeshi translations below the English street names. Where's the intention to integrate here?
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Post by mids on Jan 28, 2009 9:38:17 GMT
Truth is, Labout have made a f'up of astronomical proportions over immigration. Hence, they must go.
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Post by vania on Jan 28, 2009 9:56:44 GMT
Victor, why do you assume that their English isn't as good as, if not better than the language you heard them speak? It is a British peculiarity that we have a great dislike of bilinguism. Granted it becomes problematic if said children, you described don't speak any English, but English in addition to another language is to be encouraged imho.
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Post by vania on Jan 28, 2009 9:57:05 GMT
I do agree with you on the street names though.
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Post by mids on Jan 28, 2009 10:03:25 GMT
Is there a Bin Laden Drive or something, like?
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Post by Gort on Jan 28, 2009 10:24:08 GMT
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Post by minge tightly on Jan 28, 2009 10:30:19 GMT
'How can these children be expected to integrate into our society if they are being taught in schools where is English is the mother tongue of no pupils or a minority of pupils?'
How about they get taught English. That is one of the main points of school
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Post by joliet on Jan 28, 2009 10:40:14 GMT
Jaysus. It's damper than changing time in an old people's home in here.
English may not be these kids first language but the entire curriculum is in English and they're taught in English, they speak to other kids in English and sometimes they may slip into their native tongue.
Every other kid in my class in High School spoke another language but we all spoke English to each other and they even taught me some phrases in Urdu.
Seriously, get a grip
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 10:46:37 GMT
With one stroke of the pen, Gordon Brown can shift the goalposts of "integration" by making Urdu and Arabic official languages of the United Kingdom. With a second stroke of the pen, the school curriculum will be modified to state that the UK was always a multilingual country, and at no time was English the sole official language of the country. All evidence indicating otherwise is to be promptly destroyed in the "memory hole" located on the third floor of the Ministry of (Re)Education. Welcome to Great Britain. It is 1984! I think this in particular is worthy of a special Soiled Nappy award. Take two things, neither of which has ever been so much as suggested, and draw thus the conclusion that Britain is an Orwellian nightmare with overtones of Creeping Islamisation. Pure gold.
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limeylily
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Post by limeylily on Jan 28, 2009 10:47:01 GMT
Is there a Bin Laden Drive or something, like? There's a Bin Laden (or there was) leather retailer in Brick Lane and the last time I was there I parked in Bacon Street. ;D
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 10:50:14 GMT
The Bin Laden family is huge, Osama has about 50 odd brothers and sisters (half siblings anyway) and presumably most of them have offspring, it wouldn't be freakishly odd to run across the name in a non-Osama context.
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Post by minge tightly on Jan 28, 2009 10:52:47 GMT
Vike, I think 'Charles Martel' gives away his wibbly thoughts on Islam just by his chosen nickname
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