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Post by sweet soul on Feb 2, 2009 9:05:24 GMT
900 at Sellafield and 300 at Haysham out and workers at Grangmouth have voted to continue striking.
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 2, 2009 10:23:54 GMT
A spokesman has told the strikers at sellafield more strikes may be needed and ' we are gonna stop this once and for all! ' Good luck to them .
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Post by anotherlevel on Feb 2, 2009 16:48:19 GMT
Frankly, I'm a British worker and I'm perfectly happy to have a French or American or Australian job. And I'm a British employer and when I want someone to work I want to choose on the basis of competence, cost, enthusiasm. Not on the basis of what passport someone has.
Andy, you are talking in the singular, the problem i think is they (the company) has parachuted in a couple of hundred and this is where the issue is
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Feb 2, 2009 17:06:58 GMT
How many employers are going to want to employ Brits if they flounce off on strike every time you give a job to a non-Brit?
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Post by limeylily on Feb 2, 2009 17:54:01 GMT
And now he is tring to wheedle his way out of it. " When I talked about British jobs, I was taking about giving people in Britain the skills, so they have the ability to get jobs which were at present going to people from abroad and encouraging people to take up the courses and the education." thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics/Brown-accused-of-provoking-strikers.4935049.jpNot quite what we thought he meant? Remember at the Party Conferece how Brendan Barber and most of the delegates applauded this cynical use of a notorious BNP slogan? Perhaps what we are seeing harks back to 1968, when London's dockers turned their anger on immigrants and marched in favour of Enoch Powell.? Presumably this sorry excuse for a PM was aware of the contract signed two years ago by Total, which, in turn, means that his statement to Parliament of "British Jobs for British Workers" was a deliberate lie. Meanwhile www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/4431416/Strikes-Last-minute-talks-taking-place-to-stop-wildcat-strikes.html However, more than 900 workers at the Sellafield nuclear site in Cumbria are expected to be the latest to join thousands on picket lines. Britain is facing the threat of a co-ordinated nationwide strike which could hit energy supplies later this week as the dispute escalates. Union leaders warned that Gordon Brown had risked "inflaming" the situation by "condemning" workers with legitimate complaints. British workers have alleged that they have been barred from applying to work on major construction projects across the country. They claim that some firms are using loopholes in European laws to only hire cheaper foreign workers. The industrial action started last week after construction work at the Total Lindsey oil refinery in Lincolnshire was subcontracted to Italian and Portuguese workers. As well as strikes by about 600 workers at the Lindsey plant, protests spread to up to 20 other construction sites. Contractors at the Heysham nuclear power station in Lancashire are shortly expected to decide whether to join the unofficial walk-outs. (continued)
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 3, 2009 9:39:54 GMT
Now it says on tv that the protestors are being called racists. Crazy how that word is used so freely to accuse folk.
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 3, 2009 10:49:33 GMT
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 3, 2009 11:16:45 GMT
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 4, 2009 10:30:13 GMT
Strikers reject compromise offer as foreign workers row continues By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 10:15 AM on 04th February 2009 Comments (7) Add to My Stories Wildcat strikers at the centre of the foreign workers row today rejected a proposed deal. It had been reported earlier that a proposed deal would see up to half the 200 jobs at the heart of the disputes handed to British workers. But strikers have been told that the deal on the table would actually only mean fewer than 25 per cent of the jobs going to local workers. Union officials told demonstrators Lincolnshire's Lindsey Oil Refinery that no deal had been made, and described this as 'lies and rumours' to get them back to work. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135483/Strikers-reject-compromise-offer-foreign-workers-row-continues.html
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Post by ricklinc on Feb 4, 2009 10:44:18 GMT
British jobs for Scottish prime ministers.
Wonder how far this one will go. So far it's demonstrated that Brown really has no grasp of anything because he lives in a world of his own but we already knew that and that Mandelson is a pompous fcukwit as well as a creepy perv which is also old news. But they're shouting it louder now and even Omnipresent can hear them.
It's also shown that Italians are coming over here and taking jobs away from native British. This is nothing new either because my mum and dad did it.
Will this go so far as to be the last straw? Gordon's Brownfall.
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Post by tedward on Feb 4, 2009 10:48:46 GMT
So, Clunks 2 major soundbites...
No more boom and bust British jobs for British workers
....were both a crock of the messy stuff.
Quelle surprise
Time for Clunk to go
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Post by jonren on Feb 4, 2009 12:49:44 GMT
At PMQ today, Cameron asked Clunk if he regretted saying "British jobs for British workers. He would not admit it. The most powerful man in the world can admit "I screwed up"but Clunk joins the Pope and claims infallability. At PMQ , he does not answer questions but simply shouts louder and longer on unrelated matters. I suggest PMQ is abolished as a waste of parliamentary time and just let Clunk give a party political speech for thirty minutes every Wednesday. This is what he does anyway. Muppet!
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 4, 2009 17:56:08 GMT
A deal has been reached and is gonna be put to the strikers.
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Post by puffin on Feb 4, 2009 18:10:24 GMT
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Post by flatandy on Feb 4, 2009 18:31:12 GMT
So the skilled Italian labour that can do the job is still doing the job? And Total have employed a bunch of British people for whom there's no work?
Nicely done, improving efficiency in times of economic crisis.
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Post by steelclaw on Feb 4, 2009 22:11:08 GMT
Andy I usually agree with a lot of the common sense you post but in this case you have made statements which show you have not really understood what the whole issue is. At the moment the contract is only partly manned up and prior to this protest another 101 posts where to be filled which would have gone to Italian and Portuguese workers as no recruitment would have been carried out in Britain. Asfor a level playing field how can a British company compete on price when they would have to quote taking blue book labour costs ino account when these often mean enhancing the existing pay and conditions of permanent employees but this des not apply to a foreign company who can recruit cheaper foreign labour.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 4, 2009 22:45:11 GMT
Ah. The actual issues at the core of this dispute are very different to the ones being postulated about in most of the media.
There are questions of unfair employment practise by the Italian company. There are serious questions about the working conditions for the Italians as they're living in a prison ship in the Humber. There are questions about the level of unionisation amongst them.
These are proper issues worth addressing.
But they're nothing at all to do with the fact that the employees are Italian rather than British; and certainly nothing to do with excluding EU workers from UK contracts. The "British jobs for British workers" line is a tag onto which BNP and similar groups have hung, to try and gain traction into what should be a very local trade dispute.
And it's the protectionist, anti-foreigner sentiment that has extended this dispute beyond the confines of the one location. It's clearly not concern for the workign conditions of the Italians.
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Post by Gort on Feb 5, 2009 3:42:59 GMT
I think it is utterly horrible that you should take things out on a poor man who has had to go under several operations on his arse after the fire cracker incident....
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 5, 2009 10:32:49 GMT
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Post by sweet soul on Feb 5, 2009 18:17:04 GMT
Staythorpe protestors say Brits are still being excluded there. So there the fight goes on.
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