Michael Jackson says ok to .... etc. etc

[cathy]

Message 887 of 1186 messaged

From: Bopbumble Sent: 04/02/2003 16:23

DAVEPEA - I have shared a bed with my mates 3yr old son! Are you now going to accuse me of being a peadophile?!?!

Message 888 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Seahorse Sent: 04/02/2003 16:23

Seahorse


Over 800 messages in about 24 hours.....



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From: eburt Sent: 04/02/2003 16:24

Is it likely that within one family it is likely to happen three times though
Michael Jackson says its OK to get into bed with kids when its nothing sexual

Message 884 in Discussion

From: wandablue


I take it that no-one here knows the first thing about genetics. It's quite possible for a child of one black parent and one white parent to look completely white and have caucasian features. I have known many children of mixed colour parents and they do not follow a set pattern. In cultures where some form of aparthied has been present there have often been cases of mixed race or even black persons passing as white to avoid persecution.

Also, I am not an MJ fan but I do not think that anyone can accuse him of assault on a minor unless they were there or have proof. What do the accusers actually know of his private life? Nothing. I should think that anyone with as much money as him would have paid off that kids family to avoid it all being dragged through the courts even if it wasn't true. Most people just want to avoid hassle.

At least of no-one knows what his own kids look like, they might one day be able to go shopping an not be accosted by rabid fans or the press every time they step outside.

Don't be so judgemental about someone you know absolutely nothing about.


Message 890 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Bopbumble Sent: 04/02/2003 16:25

WANDABLUE - Yes gene's have been mentioned several times! I stated that earlier! I have a black freind with a white daughter whom is paler than me!

Message 891 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Suma Sent: 04/02/2003 16:25

I grew up listening and dancing to Micheal Jackson, and to see yesterday how he has turned out after all these years was just so so sad. He seriously needs some help. The way he spoke and the way he explained things, just made me blink.
The most bizzare answer he gave Bashir was when they were in the shop, and they were looking at an Egyptian coffin. And Bashir asked him if he would like to be buried in something like that. And Micheal said......no i dont want to be buried, I want to live forever. The worst thing is, he looked so serious when he said it.

All I say is poor guy. He has so much, but yet so little.
I think personally its ok to go to bed with kids, but it depends who they are and how they are related to you. When we get friends and family stayin over, the kids always kip with me. They range from 4-12yrs. I guess its ok when you are related to them. But i dont agree with sleeping with just any kid or ever allowing my kids to sleep with other adults.

I just wish his kids more happiness and peace than he has had.


(1 recommendation so far) Message 892 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Da_†erminator Sent: 04/02/2003 16:25

Having never really liked his music that much apart from a couple of tracks
and having watched the documentry last night I must say I felt rather sorry for him.

He is a bit of an odd ball and as far as sleeping with kids is concerned I am a bit annoyed by the way the media is trying to make something out of that. The media has been in a frenzy recently over child porn and this star MJ is an easy target to throw mud at. In my honest opinion I don't think there was anything dogey going on.

Like I said a bit of an odd ball and perhaps still a bit of kid himself.


<notice the absense of emoticons unusual for a DT posting?>


Message 893 of 1186 in Discussion

From: S-sOlDiEr Sent: 04/02/2003 16:26

Can i just ask y'all something..............

if u people think that micheal is a peadophile then wat is david beckham............

i mean david beckham sleeps with his kids from time to time

or is it different because micheal and the kids arenot blood related........

and wat if i said that there was a foster mother who slept in the same room as her kids would that also be different...........

people dont know wat the media is capable off untill its something about u....

so please leave MICHEAL JACKSON alone...............

f**k Martin Bashir the DiCk Headed not a very nice person

Message 894 of 1186 in Discussion

From: HELLSNOANGEL Sent: 04/02/2003 16:27

Wanndablue,

You are absolutely right. It is genetically possible for mixed couples to produce A Child that is completely one colour, or even twins One of each, but unless he has his children genetically modified so they all had the white gene, at least one of them would be darker skinned.


Message 894 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 16:27

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Message 894 of 1186 in Discussion

From: wandablue Sent: 04/02/2003 16:27

I knew a family where it happened twice. Then one of the daughters had a totally black baby although her husband was white. Stuff happens. You can't explain it. My great niece is white although her Dad is black, too.


Message 897 of 1186 in Discussion

From: kiki Sent: 04/02/2003 16:30

Bigdunc, what u said only says alot about yo'self! And how come you are such a good judge of character?? Beats me!!


Message 898 of 1186 in Discussion

From: jacko Sent: 04/02/2003 16:30

i think your absolouitly right and he just wants to give his children a normal life as possible!!!


Message 899 of 1186 in Discussion

From: lil angel Sent: 04/02/2003 16:30

For all you people out there who are slagging MJ to f**k, all I want to say is that it would be a completely different story if it was someone you's were a fan of. So leave him ALONE!


Message 900 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Chromodynamix Sent: 04/02/2003 16:30

A quick lesson in Black / White genetics.
There are four alleles which come from each parent to give colour.

So white and black patents off spring will have a mix of these alleles.

There are 16 possible combinations.

If two half and half parent a child, there will be a range of colours possible from totally black to totally white.

In South Africa, the Afrikaans population has about 8% black alleles, and sometimes there was a throwback when white Afrikaans parents would give birth to a black child.

Kinda poetic justice


Message 901 of 1186 in Discussion

From: davpea Sent: 04/02/2003 16:31

No comment

[cathy]

Message 902 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Chromodynamix Sent: 04/02/2003 16:31

COOL! I hit the 900 smack on.


Message 903 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Zhen Sent: 04/02/2003 16:31

As I sit at my desk listening to the annoyingly dulcit tones of Daniel Beddingfield, I am increasingly beginning to question whether a misguided need to share a bed with a lost soul (child riddled with cancer) is evil personified. Maybe it is the people who write irritating songs about being isolated and alone in an unloving world who would fair unfavourably against a man who throws a great deal of his monutary and emmotional asssts into actually being proactive. Either that or my brain is addled by the poor grammar and phraseology employed by a great deal of the other contributers to this new age witch-hunt.


Message 904 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Tweedle dee ... Sent: 04/02/2003 16:33

how depressing this all is


Message 905 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dnd_tricky Sent: 04/02/2003 16:33

That programme does not even air in America till Friday, and Jackson has not seen it yet - Fool


Message 906 of 1186 in Discussion

From: HELLSNOANGEL Sent: 04/02/2003 16:34

I actually know a whole family where both parents look white, but one is actually 1/4 black

Son 1= White straight brown hair
Son2 = Indian toned skin, black wavy hair
Son3= Blonde Afro hair, Olive complexion
Son4 = Same with blue eyes (2 & 3 had brown eyes)

My point is that they were all different and only 1 had straight hair


Message 907 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Bopbumble Sent: 04/02/2003 16:34

DAVEPEA- No comment? If you can't comment on me if you think what I did was wrong, then what gives you the right to comment on and judge MJ?!

Message 908 of 1186 in Discussion

From: madness Sent: 04/02/2003 16:34

Can we get off the rascist bit ......... it's got nought to do with it!

What about the original subject matter!!!!
If I wanted a biology lesson, i'd stay at skool!


Message 909 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dnd_tricky Sent: 04/02/2003 16:37

Does not really matter if he is the genetic father or not. The point is that he is their legal guardian and therefore responsible for their emotional and physical wellbeing - a job i personally think he is seriously under qualified for!


Message 910 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Chromodynamix Sent: 04/02/2003 16:38

Madness, just trying to clear up some misinformation here.



Message 911 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Poppy2 Sent: 04/02/2003 16:39

Yes, quite right, the racial stuff is out of order. the comments have only came about because of the vitiligo, it's got nothing to do with race.


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From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 16:39

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Message 913 of 1186 in Discussion

From: S-sOlDiEr Sent: 04/02/2003 16:39

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Message 914 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 16:41

Can we please spell the sick, paedos name right? It's M-I-C-H-A-E-L. Thanks ever so much...


Message 915 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Bopbumble Sent: 04/02/2003 16:42

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE S-sOlDiEr HERE HERE!


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From: S-sOlDiEr Sent: 04/02/2003 16:43

yeah ive had abuse from my dad and my mum didnt do anything

and he used to beat me but ever scince hearing about micheals life he inspired me to stand

up to him and that i think has made me a better person..

i love micheal and he has such a big heart and so much love to give and i rate him for that.

[cathy]

Message 917 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 04/02/2003 16:44

MJ is plastic-faced freak. anyone who disagrees is a deluded idiot.


Message 918 of 1186 in Discussion

From: assmaster Sent: 04/02/2003 16:45

I don't think many peodophilles act sexually towards boys in public, especially not in front of a camera crew that will broadcast a show to the world. So you see even if he was sexually attracted to the boy would you expect to see it. Iggnorance!


Message 919 of 1186 in Discussion

From: CHEEKYMONKEY Sent: 04/02/2003 16:45

Can everybody get of the coluor issue, no one gives a sh*t wether he is white black brown or any other colour. Everyone can see what color his skin is, so there can be no debate on this. The main discussion is his behavior with children...the harm he COULD be doing to his children and others ( mentally not sexually ). We have so much proof that he is mentally harming all the kids concerned ( his and the 12 year old ). This needs to be sorted. Because his children will PROBABLY be more disturbed than himself in later years.

I am a fan ,I do like his music, his dancing is ok however he is not of sound nature....


Message 920 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dynamobabe Sent: 04/02/2003 16:45

After watching the docu on MJ last night, I think that he is misunderstood. I felt uneasy about the fact that he shares his bed with children but clearly he is just trying to relive a childhood that he never had. His Neverland ranch shows that he is a child at heart, he never had a proper childhood as he was thrown into the limelight and the cruel schedules that came with it.

However, I feel sorry more for his children as they to will never have a proper childhood. Although they have a loving father, Michael seems to now live in his own fantasy land which isn't healthy.


Message 921 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 04/02/2003 16:47

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Message 922 of 1186 in Discussion

From: madness Sent: 04/02/2003 16:52

A lot of us don't have a dog ........ but the amount of whining on this message board, you wouldn't think so, would you?


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From: ÇHÉYÉNNÉ Sent: 04/02/2003 16:52

Yeah well Jacko might think it's OK to get into bed with kids when it's "nothing sexual" but children's charities certainly don't:

www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-12239964,00.html



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From: Blue_Ted Sent: 04/02/2003 16:53

After watching the docu on M J blah blah blah...Peter Pan...Blah blah blah..Neverland ...blah blah...still a child blah blah blah


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 04/02/2003 16:53

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Message 926 of 1186 in Discussion

From: jacko Sent: 04/02/2003 16:54

have you ever seen another man dance?


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From: CHEEKYMONKEY Sent: 04/02/2003 16:55

DYNAMOBABE

thats my views exactly


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 04/02/2003 16:55

granny trolley through the hotel at midnight


Message 929 of 1186 in Discussion

From: davpea Sent: 04/02/2003 17:00

Firstly I didn't accuse MJ of being an out and out paedo, secondly I am not about to accuse you, but you are missing the point. You are putting children at risk. Sounds to me like I did touch a nerve. People want to get a life and stop sticking up for someone that lives in a deluded fantasy of what is right and wrong, thinking he is peter pan. Perhaps he should find a high balcony and try to fly.


Message 930 of 1186 in Discussion

From: David! Sent: 04/02/2003 17:01

Michaels behaviour towards children is strange, but i believe with no malice intent. It is sad that a sexually deviant group of white middle-aged men (that's where the majority of paedophiles come from) can poison the minds of so many of us so much that we regret the loss of innocence that Michael still has.


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From: *Satine* Sent: 04/02/2003 17:02

, he never had a proper childhood as he was thrown into the limelight and the cruel schedules that came with it.

So what? Thousands of others never had a "proper childhood" (whatever that might mean!) but they don't pretend to be a child for the rest of their lives, do they? This childhood thing is used as too much of an excuse!

[cathy]

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From: *Satine* Sent: 04/02/2003 17:03

David - It is sad that a sexually deviant group of white middle-aged men (that's where the majority of paedophiles come from)

And how can you possibly know this David? Peadophilia cuts across all age groups, social groups and nationalities.


Message 933 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed Sent: 04/02/2003 17:03

He is.


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From: Loque Sent: 04/02/2003 17:04

ya i no what u mean but if he wants to do is i think we should let him hes
not doing nothing rong is he i thing he has a minde of a 13 yr old what do u
think


Message 935 of 1186 in Discussion

From: -This_Just_In- Sent: 04/02/2003 17:06

I'm sure many people would like to go back to being a child like Michael can.

After all he rarely does anything fr himself. There's always someone who's willing to wipe his arse. He can't help that.

He just happens to have the time/space/money/arse licking lackies to let him live his dreams.

I'd love a fairground in my garden! I'd love to race granny carts in hotel corridors! I'd love to have so much money that I just go "I'll have that, that that..." and not even ask the price!


Message 936 of 1186 in Discussion

From: *Satine* Sent: 04/02/2003 17:06

Well if he truly has the mind of a 13 year old he is not mature enough to be responsible for children! Quite simple.


Message 937 of 1186 in Discussion

From: CHEEKYMONKEY Sent: 04/02/2003 17:08

DAVID

are you totally out of your mind, with your comment you know thats not a fact. dont say things like that coz you are going away from the issue, plus it makes you more of a disney character than mj

Message 938 of 1186 in Discussion

From: madness Sent: 04/02/2003 17:08

I blame Social Services!!!!!!!!!!!


Message 939 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Tweedle dee ... Sent: 04/02/2003 17:12

Let's get this blasted thread to 1000, by posting crap.

Oh it seems you lot are doing that already


Message 940 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 17:14

You guys will have beaten Lassie by tomorrow morning.


Message 941 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Rockers Sent: 04/02/2003 17:20

lol

give it a couple of days you will have your own community

communities.msn.co.uk/webendoverformj

or summat


Message 942 of 1186 in Discussion

From: LPH Sent: 04/02/2003 17:22

i feel sorry for MJ. he gets sooo much flack. he a nice guy


Message 943 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Rockers Sent: 04/02/2003 17:23

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Message 944 of 1186 in Discussion

From: StarskyHutchHuggy Sent: 04/02/2003 17:24

How many did Lassie reach?


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From: Pardon Sent: 04/02/2003 17:25

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Message 946 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 17:27

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[cathy]

Message 947 of 1186 messages in Discussion

From: ¤ÏÇkĹê•ğ®āňň¥¤0 Sent: 04/02/2003 17:28

i agree with you LPH he is an inoccent he loves kids & i dont think he would harm them


Message 948 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Rockers Sent: 04/02/2003 17:28

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Message 949 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 17:31

That's the point BD. We only know the guy from his music and this interview. Both are not really encouraging.


Message 950 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Arahbella Sent: 04/02/2003 17:36

From: milate Sent: 04/02/2003 08:13

He could have had the cameras film from another angle. MJ is not the only famous man in the world. But certainly one of the most unhinged. Where are the social services in America??

The American Social Service is a joke. They do not hesitate to take children from the parents who are not abusing their children on the simple word of one teacher. It took me four years to get them to pay attention to the sexual molestation and rape of one very small little girl who when she was finally rescued at the tender age of 7 tried to kill herself because she thought she was the one to blame. Child predators make me sick and should all be deorganed and strung up in a cell with thousands of starving rats to feast upon.



Message 951 of 1186 in Discussion

From: cathy 1 Sent: 04/02/2003 17:40

At work today the main topic of discussion was the Michael Jackson interview. I think we all came to agree that the man is in desperate need of help. He of course doesn't realise it and everyone around him is too scared to tell him.

He is lonely, but rejects friendship unless it is that of a child. He craved children of his own, yet he only plays at being dad. He complains at the way he was treated by his own father, yet he doesn't realise that he too is damaging his own kids with his weird behaviour.

Great riches cannot make a sad man happy. I certainly don't envy his life.


Message 952 of 1186 in Discussion

From: HELLSNOANGEL Sent: 04/02/2003 17:43

This is the first chat room i've ever visited, and I have to say that I didn't realise that there were so many nieve people (me now included coz I didn't realise) in this country, or so many bigotted idiots ready to jump to conclusions.

I have no conclusions on the matter, I have however got an open mind.

I don't know whether he is innocent or guilty. I know he's talented, but that does not put him above suspicion, nor does it mean that because he has the money to hide such a thing that, that is what he is doing.

I hope he is not, and I hope that he does watch the programme and realise that he needs help. If he really wants his kids to not grow up like him he has to.

Personally I think Bush is more dangerous, but thats a topic for another day.

Pleaseure speaking to most of you.

Bye


Message 953 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Laney747 Sent: 04/02/2003 17:44

His music is not "shite", as you put it. I am a fan of his, having grown up with his music. I watched the interview last night. There are some aspects of his life I have great sympathy for, such as his childhood beatings. I am a parent myself, and if he is abusing children or not, a man of 44 should not be having sleepovers with adolesent children. Are these parents so star-struck that they dont care? He should be advised that this is not appropriate behaviour.

As for feeding and holding his baby, he has obviously never been shown how to do this properly either. All the money and success in the world, still cant buy basic parenting skills.
As for his shopping and plastic surgery, its entirely up to himself at the end of the day what he does. All I can say is I wish I had that fairground in my back garden, think of all the money I'd save not going to Alton Towers, Legoland etc.


Message 954 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 17:45

Can this be true?

News 4482 8 574

574 new members?!!!?


Message 955 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 17:46

I think it's just one person with the worst, yet to be documented case of MPS.


Message 956 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Parsnip Sent: 04/02/2003 17:55

He's off his rocker!

We have done zilch at work today cos everyone has been talking about it non stop, and all of were amazed and horrified at this man. The 'relationship' he had with that 12 year old looked like far more than just friends to me, they were sitting there holding hands, and the boy had this loving adoring look towards Michael, which was somewhat un nerving.... ughhh he makes me shudder, and all you people who keep saying how wonderful and great he is, are talking rubbish. The allegations that were made against him a few years ago can't be for nothing either.


Message 957 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Arahbella Sent: 04/02/2003 17:58

From: Poppy2 Sent: 04/02/2003 07:41

My mum has vitiligo, although she is white, her face is now a deathly colour of white because of the disease. When her face was patchy, she used to cover it up with make-up, I know that if she had been coloured, it would obviously been more noticable.


This was one of my first points in my reply... Vitiligo does NOT make you uniformly pale it does it in patches. There is medication you can take to make it slow down but nothing to stop it. Micheal went all white all at once... In blacks it makes you PINK like the pink of a healing burn.


Message 958 of 1186 in Discussion

From: LPH Sent: 04/02/2003 18:17

serenity returns. anyone out there?


Message 959 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:18

Yup. Waiting for #1000. That pretty much sums up my life


Message 960 of 1186 in Discussion

From: LPH Sent: 04/02/2003 18:19

Message 961 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 18:22

What a day. Poor Managers, they must be exhausted.

[cathy]

Messages 962 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:22

Just to help you on your way Mars.


Message 963 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:23

The sheer number of people joining was impressive. Wonder where they all came from?


Message 964 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Laney747 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:24

Like I said before, stuck-struck parents couldnt really give a toss.


Message 965 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 18:25

Someone must have spread the word.

My "My Groups" says 573 new members this week. And most of them today I would guess.


Message 966 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Laney747 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:25

Sorry that should have read star-struck, I've had a hard day at work, talking about Michael Jackson all day!


Message 967 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:27

That's what I call: a day well wasted.


Message 968 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 18:27

I really, really can't understand the huge interest in one pop-star. Sigh. I must be getting old.


Message 969 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:28

But Amazed: it's Michael! You know, he's so... so... errrrr. Give me a minute.


Message 970 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:32

I didnt even see the cruddy interview.


Message 971 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:33

Sheesh Mids. The most important piece of TV this year already and you missed it. Shame on you.


Message 972 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:37

Ah well, I just cant get interested in the bloke at all.


Message 973 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 18:38

Now... if they were talking about Sting and the Police....

That gives away my age I guess... SIGH.


Message 974 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Len-Voy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:38

97-. messages to this load of bilge . Is there any hope for man/woman kind?


Message 975 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 18:39

It was a crazy wave of spamming... all new members. Curious.


Message 976 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:41

Sting? Hmmmmm......

[cathy]

Message 977 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Amazed© Sent: 04/02/2003 18:42

Or Leonard Cohen.....


Message 978 of 1186 in Discussion

From: silky-lady Sent: 04/02/2003 18:42

As people keep mentioning MJ's skin disease Vitiligo, I did a little search and this is what I found on The National Vitiligo Foundation site:

Vitiligo is spontaneous irregular depigmentation of skin which can occur at any stage in life.

Doesn't sound like what he's got..............more like those stories about him bleaching are more accurate. More evidence of wackiness perhaps?

silky.


Message 979 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:42

From: *Foxy* Sent: 04/02/2003 18:33

feral all those new members just crawled out of the woodwork to discuss Michael Jackson??

there was a link into the MJ thread from the MSN front page for most of the day - but it's been taken off now



Message 980 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 18:43

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Message 981 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:44

i think the programme is being repeated tonight on ITV2 for those that get Sky/cable


Message 982 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mars33 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:45

People sometimes can't accept that someone who makes (in their eyes) good music isn't necessarily a saint.


Message 983 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:48

ITV2 at 8.00


Message 984 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:48

20:00 Living with Michael Jackson - A Tonight Special

A special edition of the current affairs series featuring reporter Martin Bashir`s film of his in-depth interview with the American pop superstar. Bashir was granted unprecedented access to Michael Jackson over the course of eight months during 2002, and in that time there was no subject that was off limits for discussion - from allegations of child abuse to the ever changing colour of Jackson`s skin.


Message 985 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Cookie_01 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:49

I see a domino effect here, his dad abused him and in 20-30yrs time MJ kids will say that their dad abused them in one form or another and it will be passed on and on. Professional help is required so the domino effect will end. It would be interesting to know if MJ's dad was abused by his dad....

Two plastic surgery operations - WHATEVER! His skin being 'white' is not down to a medical disorder but a mental disorder. He achieved alot being black and all the bad stuff followed when he choosed to be 'white'. I wonder if he had his time again would he go under the knife to look like that.....

Are those kids really his though, they looked white more than mixed. You'd think out of the 3 kids one would have kinky hair or MJ original nose.

Sleeping with kids - he is a kid himself. The family who settled out of court were money hungry. As a parent wouldn't you want justice rather than money. They know in their hearts MJ would never abuse a child - so they decide to make a quick buck at their childs expense....good parents NOT..

Money does not bring happiness......

Message 986 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 18:50

Micheal jackson shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children. He's mental and is in need of serious psychiatric attention.


Message 987 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:54

1000 - 3


Message 988 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Cookie_01 Sent: 04/02/2003 18:55

Not a fan - BigDunc but you have got a lot to say about him!!


Message 989 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:55

1000


Message 990 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:56

?


Message 991 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Sàfi Sent: 04/02/2003 18:56

LOL Foxy, another 10 to go

[cathy]

Message 992 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 18:57

ack - my brain's addled after today!


Message 993 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:58

Eh?


Message 994 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 18:58

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Message 995 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mids Sent: 04/02/2003 18:59

ROFL Foxy! Ach well ye've had a hard day.


Message 996 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 18:59

Gettin there... 995


Message 997 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 19:00

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Message 998 of 1186 in Discussion

From: SurFin Sent: 04/02/2003 19:00

1000, this is like trying to wait for your good lady to 'arrive' first


Message 999 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Sàfi Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

eh?


Message 1000 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mr_Apricot Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

1000 is mine


Message 1001 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Sàfi Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

drat


Message 1002 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

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Message 1003 of 1186 in Discussion

From: SurFin Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

huzzah


Message 1004 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Hammerheað Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

A thousand posts of rubbish. Way to go


Message 1005 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

1000!
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Message 1006 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 19:01

DRAT!

[cathy]

Message 1007 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 19:03

1007!

Message 1008 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Hammerheað Sent: 04/02/2003 19:03

Like US missiles, missed by miles NY


Message 1009 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Saddamy© Sent: 04/02/2003 19:05

This will be a record "news" item thread.


Message 1010 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 19:08

Like French weasling.


(1 recommendation so far) Message 1011 of 1186 in Discussion

From: julesss Sent: 04/02/2003 19:08

Must say if I had children and had a choice as to who I would be comfortable who leaving them with....... I'd feel most comfortable to leave them with Michael Jackson. The people who I would not consider leaving them with are ...... in priority order.... Catholic Clergy and Child Socail workers especially those in Harringay/London.

Jules


Message 1012 of 1186 in Discussion

From: New_Yorker™ Sent: 04/02/2003 19:11

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Message 1013 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 21:10

moved to keep the discussion on one thread ..

From: wend (Original Message) Sent: 04/02/2003 20:20

Lenny

I wasn't putting David in same context as MJ where the children in bed are concerned, I meant look at the attempted kidnap of BB, think what someone could ransom MJ's child or children for.



Message 1014 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 21:13

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Message 1015 of 1186 in Discussion

From: easy1 Sent: 04/02/2003 21:16

If you can afford to pay the bills you can get away with the crime, OK Michael; OJ, Phil??? Easy


Message 1016 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 21:17

hmmm ... is it time for the cliquey people to leave us and start their own thread?

All new people are MOST WELCOME here - those stamping their feet should go to thier own group if they want to be cosy and cliquey. I mean it


Message 1017 of 1186 in Discussion

From: bigdunc Sent: 04/02/2003 21:26

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Message 1018 of 1186 in Discussion

From: cyaninternetdog Sent: 04/02/2003 21:31

Jackson needs help from proffesional head doctors. i dont think he actually touched the kids he seemed like a kid organising sleepovers to me nothing more nothing less.


Message 1019 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Twojags5 Sent: 04/02/2003 21:38

I`am forever blowing bubbles ............the old ones are the best


Message 1020 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 04/02/2003 21:39

that's cool bigdunc - I hear you. But I was speaking to others as well as yourself.

ALL NEW MEMBERS are most welcome in this group.


Message 1021 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 04/02/2003 21:41

Thank you foxy your very kind

[cathy]

Message 1022 of 1186 in Discussion

Sent: 04/02/2003 21:43

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Message 1023 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 04/02/2003 21:44

here you are, a pressy from me..

progplace.com/programs/activepaper/download/Winter1.exe


Message 1024 of 1186 in Discussion

From: mazie Sent: 04/02/2003 21:45

dunc just cos I felt like it!!! you Ok hun???


Message 1025 of 1186 in Discussion

From: (_!_) bigwind (_!_) Sent: 04/02/2003 23:02

.... hmmmm, a com/programs/activepaper/download ..... sounds like the morning after a good hot currie the night before eh? .....

(_!_)


Message 1026 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 04/02/2003 23:09

LOL Just like your name eh?


Message 1027 of 1186 in Discussion

From: karri Sent: 04/02/2003 23:14

I seriously doubt that Micheal Jackson has a sexual bone in his body, he comes over as totally androgenous, and indeed I would go as far as to say the sexual act probably terrifies him, to a Child( as Micheal was on tour with his brothers) the sounds of sexual intercourse, not knowing what they are listening to is probably very frightening and violent.
I think his main problem is that from a very early age he had no perception of reality and has since found that any problems he has had to face in life can be disposed of by throwing money at it!! hence his settlement of the case in 1993.

Insane?? certainly not, needs help?? probably! I would think that he has never received any form of counselling at all.
Karri


Message 1028 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Dee_lite Sent: 04/02/2003 23:24

I very much doubt Michael will be talking to Uri Geller again because he advised him to do the interview! Michael should've stayed a recluse by the look of things cos at the moment, it looks as though he is well and truly finished.

I have no sympathy for the man (boy?) because he is obviously on "Planet ME, ME, ME!". He should've used his money wisely and gone into therapy (don't most Americans?) instead of buying tacky ornaments and souvenirs but worst of all .. buying children.

How he can sit there and say that the mother of his last child was black is beyond me. Considering Michael is also black, having a white baby between them must surely be a miracle in itself.

Why did he lie? What good has it done him? If he had been honest throughout the WHOLE interview, maybe he wouldn't be where he is now.

Finished .


Message 1029 of 1186 in Discussion

From: american teepee dweller Sent: 05/02/2003 05:58

visualise dirty little clown


Message 1030 of 1186 in Discussion

From: yinkuley Sent: 05/02/2003 07:32

I don't believe Michael Jackson will do anything to hurt his childen.

All I know is sleeping on the same bed with them does'nt mean to abuse them but to
show his love.


Message 1031 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Saralee Sent: 05/02/2003 07:35

Oh god...I thought this might have gone away by now.....


Message 1032 of 1186 in Discussion

From: ©Pandy® Sent: 05/02/2003 07:38

heheheh you didnt did ya?


Message 1033 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Saralee Sent: 05/02/2003 07:41

Actually like MJ I thought it was all a nightmare


Message 1034 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Len-Voy Sent: 05/02/2003 07:45



Message 1035 of 1186 in Discussion

From: ©Pandy® Sent: 05/02/2003 07:46

hahaha strangely enough I thought the same


Message 1036 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Ricklinc Sent: 05/02/2003 09:45

Too much money, not enough friends. Jacko needs to get some people around him who aren`t impressed with his glitter. People who will tell him the truth instead of what he wants to hear.

Elvis had the same problem. He got, "Would you like another burger, Mr Presley?" "Uh huh huh. You`ve been a wonderful snack Thankyu very much." He might still be alive if he`d had a mate who told him, "You fat b*stard! Get some exercise!"

Jackson needs to ditch the sychophants. Find someone who isn`t afraid to tell him, "Skin disease? Are you f*cking insane? Nobody is going to believe that. And leave the kids alone."

[cathy]

Message 1037 of 1186 in Discussion

From: PartyNaked Sent: 05/02/2003 09:46

Oh Good God NO!


(1 recommendation so far) Message 1038 of 1186 in Discussion

From: sahal Sent: 05/02/2003 10:09

I love his music and I support thw geezer.


Message 1039 of 1186 in Discussion

From: -BIoss- Sent: 05/02/2003 10:10

That's all right, then!


Message 1040 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 10:11

US lawyer starts Jacko probe

8.10AM GMT, 5 Feb 2003

A civil rights lawyer in America has lodged a formal complaint with authorities over the ITV1 documentary, "Living with Michael Jackson".

The documentary, in which journalist Martin Bashir spent eight months living with the reclusive superstar, is due to be broadcast in America, but advance transcripts of the show have already made their way to the US.

Social Services in the US are now set to investigate Jackson's treatment of his children and the fact that he shares his bed with young boys.

www.itv.com/news/1813350.html


Message 1041 of 1186 in Discussion

From: PartyNaked Sent: 05/02/2003 10:12

AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


Message 1042 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 10:17

you can't win in this place..i'm going back to bed.


Message 1043 of 1186 in Discussion

From: jaza Sent: 05/02/2003 10:32

Anyone else would not get away with what he is doing. Money talks!!!1


Message 1044 of 1186 in Discussion

From: -This_Just_In- Sent: 05/02/2003 10:34

This lawyer was the lawyer for the boy in the "kiddy fiddling" case and she asked for an investigation against MJ about the baby dangling.

Can you say "vendetta" or even "envy"?


Message 1045 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Ricklinc Sent: 05/02/2003 10:37

Yeah, money talks. And what it is saying to Mr Jackson via spit licking sychophants and blindly adoring fans is, "We love you, Jacko. You can do no wrong." Anyone with money who hears that often enough is going to be trouble.


Message 1046 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 05/02/2003 11:03

From: peace_maker (Original Message) Sent: 05/02/2003 10:47

Michel jackson is sane


Message 1047 of 1186 in Discussion

From: lefty770 Sent: 05/02/2003 11:06

Hey Hey come on u guys, let's just give him d benefit of doubt, what if he actually aint doin nothing to these kids? but then again y would parents send their kids to him to babysit it doesn't make much sense, d star?? babysit?? c'mon!!!. Maybe these parents just wanna milk him, and don't u go thinking am one of his fans, i can't even look at him, yes i used to like him but not anymore not with d way he looks right now!!


Message 1048 of 1186 in Discussion

From: _LuckySprite_ Sent: 05/02/2003 11:06

Foxy - peace maker is right you know.......

Michel jackson - you know......the French Michael Jackson impersonater....sane as sane can be that fella.....oh yes...no doubt there..!!


Message 1049 of 1186 in Discussion

From: benaiah Sent: 05/02/2003 11:15

my thoughts exactly brov, thats exactly what i think and as for the press
and everyone else that thinks different, well, i think they should really
sit down and think about all they are saying.is caring now prohibitted? you
know since he's a celeb. which child idol of his wouldn't want to be with
him...some even forever. he didn't have much of a childhood...remember he
said he wished he could play when a kid...but he just had to go to the
studio.at one point, and the press all know this, one has to live his
childhood life, and this at any age and time.so i think the press should at
times stop thinking about money making and just look at situations in the
rightful way.


Message 1050 of 1186 in Discussion

From: mark_182 Sent: 05/02/2003 11:15

What a looser. HE may have done some good music, but that is no reason to let him off what he does!!


Message 1051 of 1186 in Discussion

From: red__anchor Sent: 05/02/2003 11:20

Lots of people had a tough childhood and turned out ok as adults, for example-Joe Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Jeffrey Dahmer, David Berkowitz, Michael Jackson.....

[cathy]

Message 1052 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 11:25

but none of them were hounded by the press in their childhood, Red..being judged, and having thousands of people wanting to be close to you, wanting your attention all the time...a different childhood all together.


Message 1053 of 1186 in Discussion

From: red__anchor Sent: 05/02/2003 11:28

Is that why he is strange Joyce? His fans and the press?


Message 1054 of 1186 in Discussion

From: NNGirlie Sent: 05/02/2003 11:29

Mj is not the only one that has grown up in the spot light.........


Message 1055 of 1186 in Discussion

From: NNGirlie Sent: 05/02/2003 11:30

of course I use the term grown up very loosely


Message 1056 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 11:33

I don't know , Red...he's not the only 'child Star' who knows why he's turned out the way he has..I'm glad the SS in the US are going to look into it.


Message 1057 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Chromodynamix Sent: 05/02/2003 11:35

Jeebus, you regs should be ashamed you are still sucking the arse end of this thread


Message 1058 of 1186 in Discussion

From: red__anchor Sent: 05/02/2003 11:35

As long as he cant hurt children Joyce (mentally as well as physically) I dont care what he does really


Message 1059 of 1186 in Discussion

From: red__anchor Sent: 05/02/2003 11:36

Unidentifiable Smiley here

Message 1060 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 11:41

I think all this is going to destroy him..but it needs to be done for the sake of all others...He sends out all the wrong vibes..and it scares me...Loving kids is one thing..but at 44..he should know better to think it's OK to have 'sleep overs'


Message 1061 of 1186 in Discussion

From: red__anchor Sent: 05/02/2003 11:48

I agree Joyce. Giving up sleeping with children and dangling babies would be a great start for Michael's recovery.


Message 1062 of 1186 in Discussion

From: LPH Sent: 05/02/2003 12:44

i think too much is being made out of the bedroom-sharing and dangling incidence


Message 1063 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 12:53

What is the point in teaching our kids to keep away from strangers.etc.. just because he's famous and and has a lot of money, doesn't give him the right to teach the world it is ok to have other peoples children in your bed, even if it is just to sleep, its sending out the wrong signals to other children around the world..and with him being famous, kids believe..well some do..my kids think he's a looney.


Message 1064 of 1186 in Discussion

From: __My_Views__ Sent: 05/02/2003 17:22

my kids think he's a looney.

I think most people who saw the programme now think the same thing Joyce.

It's sad to see anyone who has been mentally scared by their upbringing and Jackson really looks as though he's not only been mentally scared, but he hasn't got over the experience, even though he says he's forgiven his father for the brutality he dished out.

Far from ridiculing and condemning Jackson, I'd be more inclined to sympathise with his problem, because he had no control over what happened to him as a child at the hands of his sadistic father.

But for the sake of his own future and the dangerous example he sets for kids in his life, he needs to be dealt with ASAP.

Another sad point, is that he's someone we know about because he's in the public eye. Yet there are probably millions of others just like him who suffered the same torment as a child, (although not as celebrities of course) who probably wont receive the treatment they need, unless they do something that draws attention to their mental disability either as an embarrassment, or something more sinister.


Message 1065 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 21:52

Jackson interview 'boosts sales'

Jackson said he was taunted as a child

The controversial television documentary about singer Michael Jackson has boosted sales of his records, say HMV.
Figures released on Wednesday suggest the ITV1 programme Living With Michael has prompted a rush to buy some of his most famous albums.

Thriller sales increased five-fold at HMV on Tuesday, the day after the documentary was screened.

An estimated 14 million people tuned in to hear the former lead singer of the Jackson Five interviewed by Martin Bashir.

Figures from HMV showed sales of Thriller at all its stores up by 500% on Tuesday compared to the previous week.

And his greatest hits album HIStory sold ten times as many as the week before.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2730665.stm


Message 1066 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 05/02/2003 22:19

what?!? - 500% increase in sales

[cathy]

Message 1067 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 22:24

Jacko tells lawyer 'to go to hell'

21.51PM GMT, 2 Feb 2003

December 4, 2002 - Eccentric pop star Michael Jackson has hit back at suggestions he should be prosecuted for dangling his baby over a balcony in Berlin last month.

Outside a California court, Jacko was asked how he would respond to a Los Angeles lawyer, Gloria Allred, who had called for a formal investigation into the matter. He said: "Tell her to go to hell."

www.itv.com/news/1657851.html


Message 1068 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Nigeld Sent: 05/02/2003 22:59

Joyce,

I think this is the nub of the problem.

If a person has sufficient wealth they can fly in the face of anything we all consider decent.

The entertainment industry seems to me littered with all manner of deviants - they continue to exist purely because they can buy their way around the law.

What was that old joke about Scientist's experimenting on Lawyer's instead of rats on the basis that there was a plentiful supply and there are thing's even a rat won't do !


Message 1069 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Lowender_the_Pixy Sent: 05/02/2003
23:03

Q. How does Michael Jackson pick his nose?

A. From a catalogue.

The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but to make him a priest.

Message 1070 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 23:11

I think the guy needs help..and quick..I don't care how much money he has, it won't buy him peace of mind.


Message 1071 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Vania Sent: 05/02/2003 23:13

RoL

LOL!!!! I like the second one!



Message 1072 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Nigeld Sent: 05/02/2003 23:21

Joyce,

We all know he needs help.

The point is he doesn't think so - ergo - those around him don't think so either !

Billionaires rarely have down to earth advice from their minions.

Let's hope the State of Claifornia has a prosecutor up to the job of bringing this odd thing to book.


Message 1073 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Nigeld Sent: 05/02/2003 23:22

Sorry - California


Message 1074 of 1186 in Discussion

From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 05/02/2003 23:25

True..fingers crossed on that one.


Message 1075 of 1186 in Discussion

From: karri Sent: 05/02/2003 23:26

Micheal Jackson does need help, help to come to terms with a traumatic childhood, not therapy for sexual deviancy!
I am sickened by the way so many people have jumped onto the" get him into court bandwagon"


Message 1076 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Nigeld Sent: 05/02/2003 23:36

Karri,

This "Bandwagon" has been rolling for many years now.

I think you should decide whether you fall into the "Victim" "Peadophile" or "Weirdo" camp.

His sister has made her views clear, and let's face it none of us have met the bloke - so her opinion and that of popular concencus would seem against you.

Where do you stand ?


Message 1077 of 1186 in Discussion

From: karri Sent: 05/02/2003 23:47

Actually I do not fall into any camp per se.............I have not met the man, neither have the people screeching for legal action on the boards, neither do I agree with you that the majority feel he should be prosecuted. I think he does need help, help to come to terms with the fact that although he says he has forgiven his father ,it is fairly obvious that he hasn't.

As for his sister, how do you know that anything she said is true anyway, facts can easily be distorted by the press as we all know!

Karri


Message 1078 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Foxy Sent: 06/02/2003 09:21

the documetary was shown in the States last night and MJ saw it ...

Jackson saw the programme on Wednesday and immediately released a statement, saying the show was "a salacious ratings chaser".
...
He felt "more betrayed than ever before", he added.
Jackson fans have hit back at the criticism against their idol.

Fan site MJ News International has launched a campaign encouraging fans "to write to sections of the media that are being unfair to Michael".

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2731663.stm


Message 1079 of 1186 in Discussion

From: -This_Just_In- Sent: 06/02/2003 09:23

I thought it was being shown tonight in the states?


(1 recommendation so far) Message 1080 of 1186 in Discussion

From: LPH Sent: 06/02/2003 09:54

from the MJNI website:

Michael Jackson has long been a campaigner against the abuse of children, and we applaud his stance on this matter. He is a humanitarian who uses not just his money, but also his personal time, to improve the wellbeing of children. To turn these efforts against him in order to create a highly inaccurate representation is not acceptable. It is not Jackson who is warped; rather, it is those who can draw such unpleasant conclusions from the openness and honesty that he exhibited when talking to Martin Bashir about his love for children.

Of course, Michael Jackson is not like most other people. But being different does not equal being wrong. We should be celebrating Jackson's uniqueness - which has brought us some of the most-loved pop music of all time - and applauding his refusal to be silenced on issues that he feels strongly about.

We find it depressing that little, if any, mention has been made recently of the enormous contributions Michael Jackson has made to charitable causes. The Guinness Book of Records lists Jackson as the pop star who has supported the most charities including AIDS Project L.A., American Cancer Society, Angel Food, Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles, BMI Foundation, Brotherhood Crusade, Brothman Burn Center, Camp Ronald McDonald, Childhelp U.S.A., Children's Institute International, Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund, Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation, Congressional Black Caucus, Dakar Foundation, Dreamstreet Kids, Dreams Come True Charity, Elisabeth Taylor Aids Foundation, Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, Love Match, Make A Wish Foundation, Minority Aids Project, Motown Museum, NAACP, National Rainbow Coalition, Rotary Club of Australia, Society of Singers, Starlight Foundation, The Carter Center's Atlanta Project, The Sickle Cell Research Foundation, Transafrica, United Negro College Fund, United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope, Volunteers of America, Watts Summer Festival, Wish Granting and YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw.

sentiments shared


Message 1081 of 1186 in Discussion

From: lefty770 Sent: 06/02/2003 09:58

The New jacko.....lol.

new_omo.jpg

[cathy]

Message 1082 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Matrix83 Sent: 06/02/2003 11:49

FAO: MJNI Website

As a Michael Jackson fan, I thank you for your devotion to him. Keep up the good work and support him

Message 1083 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dnd_tricky Sent: 06/02/2003 12:22

No matter how innocent MJ may or may not be, he is teaching kids that it is 'ok' to have relations with, and sleep in the same bed as, 44 year old men. This world is not a nice place and there are many ppl out there who WILL take advantage.


Message 1084 of 1186 in Discussion

From: littlemissscatterbrain32 Sent: 08/02/2003 12:20

This whole Micheal Jackson thing is making me as mad as hell

Think for a moment, sit down and take away all the hype, fame and money

TAKE AWAY THE NAME "MICHEAL JACKSON" WHAT ARE YOU LEFT WITH?

You are left with a 44 year old man, who likes to be surounded with children, willing to pay women to bred more children for him. A Man who takes 12 year old boys to bed cause "its fun".

Would all you supporters of poor Micheal be as comfortable with a 44 year old man living near you inviting young children in to his bed "as long as its ok with the parents"

I DONT THINK SO DO YOU - Men get driven, beaten, out of their homes for that very same reason.

I do think Micheal is abusing children in that way, the man is sick, and needs help he is not capabile of looking after his own children. Those kids were scared to death through out the filming. I am a mother of 3 children and when any of my children were being fed they NEVER had that look of fear. What else are those masks hiding? Its not just Micheal who should be held accountable for this, the same goes for his staff, so called friends one who said "I would let my children sleep in his bed" but when asked if he thought this was normal behavour from a 44 year old man the reply was "No" when asked would you have friends of your children sleeping in your bed the reply was "NO" ummmmmmmmm double standards dont you think. The mothers of these children Prince Micheal, Paris and BLANKET should be held accountable the money they were paid for allowing themselves to be breed mares will be needed to help repair the damage these children have suffered. They should be held accountable for their greed of selling their children for a comfortable life and leading their children into a very un-comfortable one. We will NEVER find out the wickedness of this man until his children are old enough and damaged enough to tell the world and by then it will have come full circle.

TAKE AWAY THE "MICHEAL JACKSON" and you are just left with a sick man who is grooming children for god knows what. A program aired on the discovery channel interiew child abusers and their answers to simular questions that was fired to Micheal were

"I didnt encourage ****** to stay in my house, they wanted to come and their parents had no problem, I dont abuse children, I LOVE THEM I would never hurt them did I ever hurt them? no sir I didnt"

ummmmmmmmmm heard that somewhere before.

Micheal will never come to trail for this. HE WILL BUY THE CHILDRENS AND PARENTS SILIENCE JUST LIKE LAST TIME.

And as for all he does for children and needy, crap, he is a man with too much money who eases his guilt with donations. Yes he has openened his gates to the deprived and needy children, what better children to groom then those who already very vonriable. These children are a perfect target.


Message 1085 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dnd_tricky Sent: 08/02/2003 12:27

Hmmm, dont think he is intentionally 'wicked' just sad confused and in need of serious help. The damage he is doing to his and other ppls children seems to be more from his innappropriate need to love and nurture them. I dont think he has a sexual bone in his body, but the message to kids is wrong


Message 1086 of 1186 in Discussion

From: red__anchor Sent: 08/02/2003 12:29

Alot people have said that they consider Jackson to be asexual, or like dnd tricky says "hasnt got a sexual bone in his body"...but why do you think that? How can you tell?


Message 1087 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dnd_tricky Sent: 08/02/2003 12:31

his recounting of his fist sexual experience with tatum o neil. the fact that he was married to deborah rowe yet hinted that his children were conceived by artificial means etc etc....the fact that mentally he is (well, mental) 10 years old


Message 1088 of 1186 in Discussion

From: dnd_tricky Sent: 08/02/2003 12:34

also you shouldnt let such a delicate composition of plastic overheat...............result could be disastrous


Message 1089 of 1186 in Discussion

From: vixter Sent: 08/02/2003 13:03

I agree with scatty in that if you take away his name, we'd all be calling for him to have his kids taken away from him, locked up and the key thrown away...

It pisses me off that denies the plastic surgery... I mean, its his money and his face so let him do what he likes with it, but to then deny it is just ridiculous... I think people would have a lot more respect for him if he just held his hands up and said "yes I've had loads done, whats the problem?.."

what a freak..


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From: Zed Sent: 08/02/2003 16:47

Having now watched this doco I've changed my opinion of him..which was pretty harsh before.
I'm no Jackson fan (although I acknowledge his talent) but the guy that did this doco was a prat who definately exploited him for all he was worth, and I don't think there there is anything sexual about Jackson's sad arrested development and desire for 'playmates'.
The media is going to hound this guy into an early grave. It's the media that's making me sick they are greedy, revolting and selfish hypocrites and Jackson pales (pun) when compared to them.


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From: HotHun_1 Sent: 08/02/2003 19:35

I don't think MJ has the skin disease. It doesn't turn your whole body white, Just patches of it and it doesn't go white either it goes more of a pink colour. I love MJ and wont have a bad word said against his name although i agree with you on his mental issues. I think he's a good loving father and wouldn't hurt his or anyone els's kid's just like he said in the interview x sarah x


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Sent: 08/02/2003 19:37

This message has been deleted due to termination of membership.


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From: salfollad Sent: 08/02/2003 20:26

I agree that he is a good father, cos I believe what I saw. And there is nothing wrong with loving children. I know that he is very unique about loving children so much, but I think I believe the guy after I watched the programme again.
It made me think that he is real, it's like everybody else who is keen in something.
we all love something very much. He loves children. I can't see anything wrong with that at all.
And maybe the word beeeed it's not sexual, maybe he just sleeps with children, like I do so with my baby son.
I like him even more after I watched that programme.

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From: salfollad Sent: 08/02/2003 20:38

Hey we have got the same opinions.
I absolutely agree with you.
Those paparazzi are rubbish, just get the money by giving others a very hard time.
If anyone from them reads this:

LEAVE THEM ALONE, FIND A BETTER JOB

Message 1095 of 1186 in Discussion

From: Mrjupp Sent: 08/02/2003 20:45

Nah.

Michael Jackson is an insecure freak who needs psychiatric care.

He can't even look after himself so now matter how much he loves kids...his own or other peoples...he's not a "fit and proper" person (in accordance with the law) if found to have a mental disorder.

Perhaps they ought to conduct an evaluation of his mental state and when they find he's as nutty as a fruitcake, then perhaps his kids will not be dressed in shrouds and made to feel the world is an evil place and other children will not be invited to sleep with "Uncle" Michael.

It is illegal in the UK for a child to sleep with an adult, even if there was no sexual contact. It is a little used piece of legislation attached to the Children's Act 1989.


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From: Sabertooth Sent: 08/02/2003 20:50

I especially liked the bit " Michael Jackson is an insecure freak who needs psychiatric care ".........That really sums this poor little man up.

[cathy]

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From: Mrjupp Sent: 08/02/2003 20:51

Also under propsed amendments to the Sexual Offences Act it would be a case that Michael Jackson would be found guilty of Sexual Grooming of a Child.

The proposed law only states that if there is a belief, then that is sufficient for a conviction. You do not have to prove actual grooming.


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From: The Troll Sent: 08/02/2003 21:14

From: The Troll Sent: 2/8/2003 9:07 PM

I saw no evidence of a loving father to those kids. I heard words and i saw holding hands but seemed to me that he was merely carting them around as he would purchases from the store.

Not once did i see any display of affection..

Did you?


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From: The Troll Sent: 08/02/2003 21:35

I want an answer


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From: red__anchor Sent: 08/02/2003 23:52

"his recounting of his fist sexual experience with tatum o neil. the fact that he was married to deborah rowe yet hinted that his children were conceived by artificial means etc etc....the fact that mentally he is (well, mental) 10 years old"

Yes I agree that he hasnt have any sexual feelings towards WOMEN...but that doesnt mean that he hasnt got a sexual bone in his body !


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From: RobH Sent: 09/02/2003 10:44

Mrjupp I'm a little intrigued by the suggestion that there is a crime if an adult and a child sleep in the same bed. I'm not sure any such crime exists. Do you know which piece of legislation has criminalised this? You have mentioned the Children Act but I am unaware of any part which criminalises adults who sleep in the same bed as a child.


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From: Petasus Sent: 09/02/2003 10:45

He has the blessed good fortune of having made millions that he could use to retreat into his own world of reality. He also uses this fortune to protect himself, and create what he wants within that world, i.e. children. Clearly genetically none of these children are his own. Vertiligo is a sad attempt at covering up his facial dysmorphia. Vertiligo causes pink patching. It is never all over. If one carefully noted the photos taken of the baby dangling incident, you would see a long dark scar along his index finger. A typical negroid, possibly keloid, scar.

He may have regressed back into the childhood he never really had due to familial, mainly paternal, abuse. But it doesn't mean he also does not have the normal sexual urges of a mature male. He may justify his ?sexual experiences as being innocent, because he believes he is innocent, like Peter Pan. But that doesn't make it normal or according to the rest of the world's view on reality, and what is acceptable behaviour.


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From: hazykins Sent: 09/02/2003 13:47

excellent point - the man should be put on ice before he melts entirely!!


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From: Blah Sent: 09/02/2003 14:27

"It is illegal in the UK for a child to sleep with an adult, even if there was no sexual contact. It is a little used piece of legislation attached to the Children's Act 1989."

Now this is the clearest sign I have ever heard of a dysfunctional sick society, God help you all if this is true.
There sure are a lot of sanctimonious ponces to be found on this board...no doubt all found to have been raped by their fathers/brothers/uncles once they'd gone through clinical regression.


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From: salfollad Sent: 09/02/2003 15:21

I absolutely agree with you that is not such a law in UK regarding this matter. if it was that means that I am breaking the law by sleeping in the same bed with my baby son.
Guys this is sick. Don't try to convince others by mentioning the law.


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From: (_!_) bigwind (_!_) Sent: 09/02/2003 16:03

Mrjupp, .... [prospective Medway Tory Councillor?] .....

...... well, I've been through the Childrens Act 1989 for the reference you've quoted ..... and, what do you think I've found folks? ...... zilch; nowt; f'all; ..... yup, another bit of tory spin folks ..... shame on you Juppie .... you should be publicly embarrassed and post an apology on the board unreservedly ..... I hope you won't try to mislead those that could possibly vote for you in the Medway electorate eh? ...... btw, have you come clean with your supporters that you were a member of the Socialist Workers at college before you turned traitor and joined the tory party ..... lol ..... remember? ... eh?

(_!_)


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From: Blah Sent: 09/02/2003 16:27

I don't know what political leaning Mrjupp adheres to but the obviously bogus (you'd hope) bit of legislation he refers to would sound like something a Government control freak socialist Labor party would enact rather than the Tory party


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From: (_!_) bigwind (_!_) Sent: 09/02/2003 17:35

Blah,

I don't know what political leaning Mrjupp adheres to but the obviously bogus (you'd hope) bit of legislation he refers to would sound like something a Government control freak socialist Labor party would enact rather than the Tory party

...... well, Blah, I can confirm that if you look back through this board you'll find out complete chapter and verse as to the political leaning of Mrjupp [Mr. Jupp - yup that's his real name too - Medway Council - prospective Council member under the tory flag - by his own admission - and on his own website] .... okay now? ....

..... and as for the legislation - Childrens Act 1989 - well, that's not bogus .... far from it .... it actually controls all about care of children and the official things that social services have to have in place to protect kids ..... y'know, it's the legal stuff that's behind many of those high-profile cases ..... yeh? ....

..... and as for your cheap jibe about "freak socialist Labor [your spelling tch!] party" .... if you're talking about "New Labour" well, I may agree ..... but if you want to go and look at "True Labour" as a party then you may see it slightly different ...... give it time eh? ......

(_!_)


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From: Mrjupp Sent: 09/02/2003 18:37

The law is quite specific so read the Children's Act again...and for all you budding solicitors and barristers, it has already been used in this country.

Section 1.3.E

(3) In the circumstances mentioned in subsection (4), a court shall have regard in particular to

(e) any harm which he has suffered or is at risk of suffering;
Section 31.2 A 1
(2) A court may only make a care order or supervision order if it is satisfied—
(a) that the child concerned is suffering, or is likely to suffer, significant harm; and
(b) that the harm, or likelihood of harm, is attributable to—


(i) the care given to the child, or likely to be given to him if the order were not made, not being what it would be reasonable to expect a parent to give to him
protection of children.

Section 44.1.a


44.—(1) Where any person ("the applicant") applies to the court for an order to be made under this section with respect to a child, the court may make the order if, but only if, it is satisfied that—

(a) there is reasonable cause to believe that the child is likely to suffer significant harm if—


(i) he is not removed to accommodation provided by or on behalf of the applicant; or


(ii) he does not remain in the place in which he is then being accommodated;


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From: Mrjupp Sent: 09/02/2003 18:39

Appalling cut and paste from the Children's Act 1989 but never mind

www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1989/Ukpga_19890041_en_1.htm

You can read the entire thing here.


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From: Mrjupp Sent: 09/02/2003 18:44

Oh and Bigwind. I've not forgotten. Organising a demo against Maggie does not make me into a revolutionary.

[cathy]

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From: Mrjupp Sent: 09/02/2003 18:58

So if you want bigwindypoo I shall extrapolise.

There is nothing in the Act which specifically states that to sleep with a child is illegal but if it is believed there may exist the possibility that a child may suffer harm then an offence has been committed...ergo if you sleep with a child it is possible it will be considered illegal.

There bigwind...that better?


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From: Byron Kennet Sent: 09/02/2003 19:48

Quote:

Michael Jackson says its OK to get into bed with kids when its nothing sexual

Yeah - and the law says...

Adam

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From: (_!_) bigwind (_!_) Sent: 09/02/2003 21:28

Mrjupp,

....... thanks for at least putting the record straight and admitting you were spinning stuff a tad eh? ..... and as for your militant demo-days ...... hmmmm, I see you waited 'til maggie lost her marbles before you found the guts to stand up and admit your past and how you campaigned against her ..... now, will you actually tell some of your possible unsuspecting tory supporters about your "murky" political past eh? .... lol .... I bet not ! .... has maggie known, she'd have had you flogged no doubt eh? .... but, you should take heed of the others who've concealed material facts and skeletons in cupboards from their supporters that later come out and haunt them at a time when they have perhaps totally forgotten about such things in the past and become successful ...... just a thought or two eh? ....

(_!_)


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From: Mrjupp Sent: 09/02/2003 21:54

Nay Bigwind.

Twas in 1981 when I arranged the demo that got on NewsAt Ten.

By the time I could vote in 1982 (Also the year of the Falklands War) I became one of her fervent supporters.


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From: Mrjupp Sent: 09/02/2003 22:05

And skeletons be damned Bigwind.

As you are equally aware...we had this discussion before. I'd be very surprised if any didn't know it. I've certainly mentioned it often enough.

It's the new Conservative Party Bigwind...drawing in people from all walks of life and views. We might even have a spot for you too you know.

Let me know if you want to help in my campaign and I'll buy you a train ticket.

I've already recruited a (Shock, Gasp) Labour Party member to campaign for me. He's somewhat peeved that the local Party supported Cliffe Airport for so long. They may have changed their view now but that hasn't satisfied him.

I've also recruited a LibDem fundraiser (that's one of the reasons why I'm kept well informed) so all I need now is a person like your good self and I can then truly state that in Gillingham, the Conservative Party represents people covering the entire political spectrum.


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From: Gary_M Sent: 09/02/2003 22:48

We might even have a spot for you too you know

ROFL!!!! I'd love to see you fit a Trotskyist in the Conservative Party!


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From: Freddyisreddy Sent: 09/02/2003 23:02


"To make matters worse, a deposition given by the 13-year-old boy at the centre of the 1993 child abuse allegations has just been made public, and it is not pleasant reading. The boy, Jordan Chandler, says Jackson had repeated sexual contact with him over a three-month period and talked about doing similar things to other boys the same age.

"The first step was simply Michael Jackson hugging me," the deposition reads. "The next step was for him to give me a brief kiss on the cheek. He then started kissing me on the lips, first briefly and then for a longer period of time. He would kiss me while we were in bed together." The boy goes on to describe acts of mutual masturbation, shared baths and oral-genital contact. And, he says: "Michael Jackson told me that I should not tell anyone what had happened. He said this was a secret."

The suit brought on behalf of Jordan Chandler was settled for an undisclosed sum believed to be somewhere between $13m and $18m. Prose- cutors in Santa Barbara chose to leave their criminal complaint against the singer "open but inactive", and little has been heard in the affair since. Jackson has consistently refused all comment, citing the terms of the court settlement."

news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=376698


I am sorry, but the evidence speaks for itself. 'Gavin' and MJ's children are in danger. They must be removed forthwith.


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From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 10/02/2003 08:07

Monday, 10 February, 2003, 04:02 GMT

Jackson hits back at Bashir show

Michael Jackson wants to prove the show was unfair
On Sunday Jackson said he would produce his own video excerpts, filmed by his personal cameraman during the eight-month documentary shoot, to prove Mr Bashir's portrayal was hypocritical.

The star also repeated a vehement denial of "recycled" child abuse allegations, which were published in British papers over the weekend.


Bashir was manipulative, Jackson claims The video was taken after the Berlin visit where Jackson infamously dangled his baby son from the balcony of a hotel.

"The film shows extraordinary scenes of Martin Bashir praising the way Michael treats children and commenting on how good a father he is," said a statement released by the singer.

"The Jackson footage clearly shows that Bashir was actually continuing to praise Michael's abilities as a father and [shows] Bashir making statements about how he feels it is a pity that the world is so quick to criticise Michael.

"On the face of it, either Martin Bashir was lying to Michael or was misleading his audience on the voice-overs on the film."

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2743455.stm



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From: Mrjupp Sent: 10/02/2003 08:49

ROFL!!!! I'd love to see you fit a Trotskyist in the Conservative Party!

Well Stalin did accuse Trotsky of Counter-revolutionary activity.

Going back to the posts by freddyisreddy. It is good that these documents are finally coming to light.

Michael Jackson would contravene the Childrens Act if it was proven he did this here. Also the new offence proposed by David Blunkett of Sexual Grooming would also be proven.

Wacko Jacko would go on the sex offenders registration and if ever the views of the residents in Gillingham become law, he'd be able to hit the top soprano notes all the time


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From: Wazwo Sent: 10/02/2003 09:13

Michael Jackson says its OK to get into bed with kids when its nothing sexual

WAZWO

No it is not okay to get into bed with other peoples kids particularly as Mr Jackson has several bedrooms in his large homes they could use.

Its funny how many folk excuse the inexcusable when it comes to rock stars and the like,do they think such people have a licence to abuse kids by virtue of their fame status?


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From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 10/02/2003 09:19

It's not been proved that he has abused children ,Wazwo.


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From: Wazwo Sent: 10/02/2003 09:55

From: Joyce LP Sent: 10/02/2003 09:19

It's not been proved that he has abused children ,Wazwo.

WAZWO

The case against him is far from done and dusted joyce if you where a kid that was abused by him would you come orward knowing the world would forever se you as 'the kid that was abused by Michael Jackson' ?

According to the police the outstanding case can still be brought against him in the meantime no kid should be allowed to have contact with him until he is either proved innocent or guilty. AS for his treatment of his own kid or 'possesions' that he bought they are hardly living a normal life are they?

Being forced to wear veils from birth onwards and to adopt their fathers fear of germs and weird screwball lifestyle.


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From: Plainly_Uncluttered Sent: 10/02/2003 09:58

So because he's a bit loopy, Wazwo, we take action before we have any proof? Trial by media once again methinks. Bashir is little more than a self-publicist, and the sooner he's acknowledged as such the better.


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From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 10/02/2003 11:19

Oh! Wazwo Wazwo Wazwo..Whatever!


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From: RobH Sent: 10/02/2003 11:45

Mr Jupp The problem as you say are those <<budding solicitors and barristers>> who mis-state the facts.

The Children Act 1989 is primary legislation to regulate court procedure when dealing with family matters which updated the law to take into account current family arrangements. In particular it has given unmarried fathers rights which they did not have previously and dispensed with the old custody order which excluded the non custodial parent from active participation in the upbringing of their child.

It also updated and clarified the duty of local authorities with regard to their civil responsibilities to promote and protect the welfare of children.

It neither makes the act of an adult sleeping with a child an offence nor does it imply anywhere that such an act is an offence. Claiming, incorrectly that it does, is not only misleading and wrong but also diminishes your argument as it is based on a false premiss. What occurs between an adult and a child in a bed may be a criminal offence under various laws relating to sexual offences but there is no criminal offence in the UK of an adult sleeping in the same bed as a child.

Adults can, and do, sleep with children without sexual intent and without sexual behaviour occuring.

[cathy]

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From: Wazwo Sent: 10/02/2003 16:11

From: BV1 Sent: 10/02/2003 09:58

So because he's a bit loopy, Wazwo, we take action before we have any proof?

WAZWO

So you think the life his kids are leading is normal?

this nutter sees his kids as another possesion nor is his constantly covering them with veils normal behaviour he is tranfering his fears and idiosyncracies onto his kids face it his kids are prisoners of this Mans fantasies.

Kids are not just so he can live his lost childhood out through them they are human beings and individual in their own right.

From: RobH

Adults can, and do, sleep with children without sexual intent and without sexual behaviour occuring.

This is true RobH but some do have sexual intent and as the case against him is not closed according to the police he should not be let near kids let alone be sleeping with them until the matter is cleared up.


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From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 10/02/2003 16:31

This is true RobH but some do have sexual intent and as the case against him is not closed according to the police he should not be let near kids let alone be sleeping with them until the matter is cleared up.

Jackson will not face sex probe

Michael Jackson will not face a new probe into allegations of child abuse despite TV admissions that he shares a room with children.

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From: Wazwo Sent: 10/02/2003 16:54

From: Joyce LP

Michael Jackson will not face a new probe into allegations of child abuse despite TV admissions that he shares a room with children.

WAZWO

Mr Sneddon said a high-profile 1993 investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct against the singer involving a 13-year-old boy remained "open, but inactive."

It aint done and dusted Joyce.

In light of the fact that over ten years ago there was one incident that was actually a prosecution, which was then dropped, leads us to further concern.

It sure is a concern given his recent remarks and his views on kids sleeping aragements whilst in his care.

Now Tell me anyone I am not a Superstar but would it be apropriate for me to ask My Sons friends when they stay over to sleep in My Bed so I could 'tuck them in' or 'read them a story' and what do you think the reaction of their parents would be?

Sorry it is not normal for any man to ask and he did say in the interview that he said to kids 'if you love me you will sleep in my bed' particularly other peoples kids this is certainly not normal behaviour for a grown man.

Its not like he has a lack of spare bedrooms at neverland.

Be truthful now -

If your Son came home from a sleepover at his mates house and told you that he slept in the same bed with his mates Father at his request or not -

What would your reaction be.


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From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 10/02/2003 16:59

That was 10 years ago Wazwo...the parents of that child took his money and didn't take it any further...if it was my child...there wouldn't be enough money in the world to pay me off..I would want it proved in a court of law, and if guilty..locked up.


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From: Wazwo Sent: 10/02/2003 17:28

From: Joyce LP Sent: 10/02/2003 16:59

That was 10 years ago Wazwo...the parents of that child took his money and didn't take it any further...if it was my child...there wouldn't be enough money in the world to pay me off..I would want it proved in a court of law, and if guilty..locked up.

WAZWO

Be truthful now -

If your Son came home from a sleepover at his mates house and told you that he slept in the same bed with his mates Father at his request or not -

What would your reaction be.


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From: JÖ¥CÉ Sent: 10/02/2003 17:32

if it was my child...there wouldn't be enough money in the world to pay me off..I would want it proved in a court of law, and if guilty..locked up.


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 11/02/2003 11:24

Thought this thread was dead, did you?

Some comic relief


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From: *Satine* Sent: 11/02/2003 12:27

LOL Chromo! (but what would he want to invade Britain for - we haven't got enough theme parks here for the likes of Jacko).


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From: dnd_tricky Sent: 11/02/2003 13:09

Hey Mr Jupp!

I live in Gillingham and personally i would vote for anyone who made my street a residents parking zone so that i stop getting parking tickets outside my own house!
What do ya say?!


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From: kacieuk Sent: 12/02/2003 09:26

who's she? i am English and i can spell! lets not!


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From: kacieuk Sent: 12/02/2003 09:29

i want to live with micheal in never land it's so cool.
he's wicked! luv kacie xxx


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From: Mrjupp Sent: 12/02/2003 10:16

dnd tricky

Private email sent to you at your hotmail account.

Please reply as soon as possible.


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From: HELLSNOANGEL Sent: 12/02/2003 10:27

I can not believe this is STILL going!!!!!!!!!

Blah Blah

Blah.........etc..........etc........etc.............................
YAWN!


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From: STE DA PIMP Sent: 13/02/2003 10:54

YO WHAT UP BUKKY GOT UR E-MAIL NICE ONE MAN U RULE



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From: snail Sent: 18/02/2003 20:17

look at attached file

What do you do when you are confronted by such slippages in the English language as.doc

[cathy]

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From: duneswalker50 Sent: 19/02/2003 04:40

the guy has problems with reality - but his music is magic


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From: Wazwo Sent: 19/02/2003 12:29

WAZWO

Police in America now reveal they found pictures of Nude kids in his home during their investigations.

Guess they where just there in the name of Art eh?


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From: -BIoss- Sent: 05/11/2003 17:12

Weeee luv Mikul!


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 05/11/2003 17:14

ha ha ha ha ha ha

pmsl

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From: ©Pandy® Sent: 05/11/2003 17:14

omg nooooooooooooooo nooooooooooooooo please noooooooooooooooo


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From: -BIoss- Sent: 05/11/2003 17:14

A classic for all time


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Sent: 05/11/2003 19:43

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From: Nimrod2 Sent: 05/11/2003 19:48

Hey duneswalker - if you think his music is magic you don't have very good taste do you? MJ's musical ability is about as good as a finger nail across a blackboard


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From: red__anchor Sent: 22/09/2004 01:49

Would it be fair to say that this thread has been the 'thread of the decade', based on it's comic appeal?


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 22/09/2004 09:06

Congratulations RA, and thank you.


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Sent: 22/09/2004 09:09

This message has been deleted due to termination of membership.


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 22/09/2004 09:15

In that case, well done Devon and thank you, and slapped wrist for RA for taking all the credit!


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 22/09/2004 09:48

You thingy, RA


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 22/09/2004 11:58

Well done Devon. I was agonising* over this thread all day yesterday. What happy happy memories.


*This may, or may not be true


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Sent: 22/09/2004 12:03

This message has been deleted due to termination of membership.

[cathy]

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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 22/09/2004 12:05

I reckon that this thread should stay in the top 50 posts for the rest of eternity. It's great


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 22/09/2004 12:19

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From: Sincerely_Fabia Sent: 2/4/2003 11:09 AM


It annoys me how everyone just wants to know about Michael Jackson's face. If he did have plastic surgery then where are the scars? Maybe what he is saying is all true, eh could have had growth hormones which would have changed his bone sizes.

I agree about the way he was holding his baby whilst feeding it, but I rekon he was just nervous. It's his life, and the thing about him sleeping with boys, that is so obviously not anything sexual, he just wants the world to be peaceful and everyont to love everyone, and i tottally agree with him. He isn't having sex with little boys, he's giving them some care and stuff, cos when he was younger he didn't get any and he wants to help everyone cos he doesn't want anyone to suffer like he did. Okay I don't wana blabber on...

Thanks for listening to me!

LMAO


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 22/09/2004 12:23


And this is a real poster!


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From: nat123 Sent: 2/4/2003 11:16 AM


I think the statment u wrote bout mj was just plain stupid. If in face michael had'nt sexualy abused those kids then he would'nt have pain out the money 2 there famileys. If in face he was innocent he would have stayed in court and fought fot his innocence BUT he did'nt. The sharing a bed wiv a lil boy is absolutly crazy, if som1 who was'nt famouse did it when y should he get away wiv it!!!!!!


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From: HELLSNOANGEL Sent: 22/09/2004 12:26


Oh dear!


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 22/09/2004 12:26


Gnu Fiddler was a hoot wasn't he


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 22/09/2004 12:39


classic:

Well the insight he gave us of himself yesterday night was clearly painfull. I'm not a fan of MJ but all I'm saying is that he simply loves children and wants them to live in a better place for you and for me, that's why he wrote "HEAL THE WORLD!". You can't ignore the fact that he was abused during his childhood by his dad, give the man a break his trying to give what he didn't get during his childhood to other neglected children. He doesn't want to see children suffering. He wants to build a better place for them.


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 22/09/2004 12:42


bless


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 22/09/2004 12:43


(2 recommendations so far) Message 41 of 1163 in Discussion


From: Schwarzenegger909 Sent: 04/02/2003 11:02


Long Live MICHAEL JACKSON and HIS FANS!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah baby!


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 22/09/2004 12:54


there are some corkers in there


he is just haveing a child hood now coz he never hade on when he was littal so please just let him live his life people like him kids like him he just wants to be nice to childern coz he is trying to give them a better chilled hood than what he had so plz leave him!!!!


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From: Mids Sent: 22/09/2004 12:57


A chilled hood? haha


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 22/09/2004 13:14


I like the argument that he couldn't do anything bad because he wrote Heal The World


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 22/09/2004 13:20


Argument? It's a perfectly adequate defence, UCB



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From: Hardy Sent: 22/09/2004 13:22


In which case, surely "you are not alone" is a bit perverted?


It's a bit like Gary Glitter's "you wanna be in my gang".


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From: icas2 Sent: 22/09/2004 13:37


Counsel for the prosecution m'lud[or whatever] One "Thriller" entered as evidence.

Case dismissed.



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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 22/09/2004 13:46


I just trolled the whole thread, and my pants are wet
573 new members in a week!

500 posts in 24 hours.

Didn't count the deletions.

[cathy]

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Sent: 04/01/2005 16:31

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From: Mids Sent: 04/01/2005 16:45

Haha! You realise the managers can see who deleted threads are by?


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 04/01/2005 16:46

Who did that?


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From: Sabre Sent: 04/01/2005 16:52

Please God, don't let anyone bump up Lassie or the King of New York


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From: WetKingCanute Sent: 04/01/2005 17:52

Why?

Lassie's not dead is she?


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 04/01/2005 18:01

ohmigod I just found out! lassie is dead!


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From: im-a-pet-bee Sent: 06/09/2005 18:16



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From: Puffin_1 Sent: 06/09/2005 18:20

Whoever bumped this up is not going to be at all popular with the managers


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 07/09/2005 13:46

Out of interest, and hoping I won't be flayed alive because it's not like I had to trawl back to find this, but why is there a problem with resurrecting old threads? They can be very interesting.


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 07/09/2005 13:52

An update to make you really squirm!

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Pop star Michael Jackson, who has been in seclusion since his acquittal on sex abuse charges, has written a song that he will record to benefit victims of Hurricane Katrina, according to his publicist.

Jackson will record the single, "From the Bottom of My Heart," within two weeks, and he plans to enlist other entertainers for the project, spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/07/katrina.jackson/index.html

The song should be simplified to "From my Bottom"



(1 recommendation so far) Message 1182 of 1186 in Discussion


From: Metranil_Vavin1 Sent: 07/09/2005 13:54


HE WUD NEVA.

MJ LUVS TEH LIL CHILREN..HE IS LIK JESUS CHRIST

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From: AssumingVakant Sent: 07/09/2005 14:00

I think your post would have had more impact if it was in this colour, MV.


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From: Ian. Sent: 07/09/2005 14:25

Nicholas Collier has nothing on Seahorse, look, a paultry 120 recommendations on a thread of over 1100 posts, Wazhorse managed over 3000 recommendations after just a couple of hundred.


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 07/09/2005 14:45

Ah! My favourite thread of all time...the day the psychos came


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From: no1angelfish Sent: 07/09/2005 15:57

Pheeeuww!!!! i did it, Its taken me all afternoon, but I did it, I read every post and....

this has been the best afternoon eva, wot a larf!!!

these people were certifiable..