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[Marshall]

Sept 11, 2015 20:45:09 GMT lala said:

Sept 11, 2015 19:31:08 GMT Marshall said:

Ironic that on this the 14th anniversary, a huge crane falls into the Grand Mosque in Mecca smashing through the roof and killing scores of worshippers.

Only if you don't really understand irony.

How so?

[Deleted]

That's a hard one - getting irony. Ha ha

[eit]

How does airplane oil or fire of normal office equipment melt steel and bring down huge structures such as the Twin Towers like that? It's not possible, particularly in a short space of a few hours...

Those planes did not kill all those people but something else did. Wake up, folks. Those people were killed by their own countrymen.

[nobody]

Yup, it was all a publicity stunt to blacken the name of Muslims .

f**k**g idiot

[Marshall]

Oh good lord, not this gibberish again.

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

[Repat Van]

Sept 11, 2015 19:51:01 GMT mids said:

Sept 11, 2015 14:04:41 GMT Repat Van said:

I remember it like it was yesterday. Cannot believe it was 14 years ago. Time needs to slow down.

It's the reason I'm here. A few days after  it, the MSN front page had a link to a discussion about it on the old news board. I clicked on the link to have a look and the rest is history...

Me too.

[lala]

Sept 11, 2015 21:52:51 GMT Marshall said:

Sept 11, 2015 20:45:09 GMT lala said:

Only if you don't really understand irony.

How so?

irony

ˈʌɪrəni/

noun

the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

[eit]

Sept 11, 2015 23:02:29 GMT Marshall said:

Oh good lord, not this gibberish again.

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

3 modern American skyscrapers fell from 2 planes. Either America has the shittiest construction regulations on earth or those buildings were demolished

[lala]

Can you point to other buildings that have been f**k*d into by jet liners and not fallen down?

Someone relay this to the twit since he has me on 'ignore'.

[Marshall]

Sept 12, 2015 0:53:42 GMT lala said:

Sept 11, 2015 21:52:51 GMT Marshall said:

How so?

irony

ˈʌɪrəni/

noun

the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

[lala]

That's a stupid;y loose definition, or your trying to interpret it too loosely. Getting run over when crossing the road is unexpected; it is not ironic. Having a great big massive crane fall on the Great Mosque on 9-1, especially since the crane seems to be owned by the Bin Ladens, is just a weird coincidence.

You might call it a sort of poetic justice, I suppose, if you're a bit of a sh*t.

I just view it as a tragic accident.

[Marshall]

Sept 12, 2015 2:14:20 GMT eit said:

Sept 11, 2015 23:02:29 GMT Marshall said:

Oh good lord, not this gibberish again.

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

3 modern American skyscrapers fell from 2 planes. Either America has the shittiest construction regulations on earth or those buildings were demolished

or - you aren't an expert on the subject, and - you don't want to listen to people who are.

You're as bad as the religious nuts, foregoing reason for wish fulfillment.

[Marshall]

Sept 12, 2015 5:45:14 GMT lala said:

That's a stupid;y loose definition, or your trying to interpret it too loosely. Getting run over when crossing the road is unexpected; it is not ironic. Having a great big massive crane fall on the Great Mosque on 9-1, especially since the crane seems to be owned by the Bin Ladens, is just a weird coincidence.

You might call it a sort of poetic justice, I suppose, if you're a bit of a sh*t.

I just view it as a tragic accident.

Let's see, Muslim jihadists - fly planes of people into the WTC - martyrs for Allah - destroy the West - from Saudi Arabia - land of Mecca - Ground Zero Holyland - Grand Mosque gets impaled by a crane -

Getting the drift?

[Deleted]

Except that the CIA did it.

[Deleted]

Worrying stuff...

[lala]

Sept 12, 2015 6:04:07 GMT Marshall said:

Let's see, Muslim jihadists - fly planes of people into the WTC - martyrs for Allah - destroy the West - from Saudi Arabia - land of Mecca - Ground Zero Holyland - Grand Mosque gets impaled by a crane -

Getting the drift?

Oh, I get all that, and I'm as bemused as everyone else by the tragic absurdity of it all. But that doesn't make it irony. Just a rather bizarre coincidence.

[clarity]

If I was inclined to be religious I might believe that it was some kind of god (Thor maybe) who sent that lightening bolt down on the crane. Vengeance is mine and all that silly stuff. I do find it ironic though that the construction firm is owned by the Ben Laden family. Health and safety might not be a priority with them.

[flatandy]

Oooh! Look at Lala with his fancy pants English Teacher "words have actual meanings" affectations.

[eit]

I bet the kids, when he does that in his class, put their hands over their ears and go "la la la la" to try block and block him out....

[lala]

I nail their hands to the desks to stop that.