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Post by happyhammerhead on Feb 23, 2022 0:25:32 GMT
So, because some people thought something, it's true?
Describe how some ill-educated pilots of civilian aircraft could take out AF1.
Oh, hang on, I don't think you can.
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Post by voice on Feb 23, 2022 0:45:08 GMT
Or how AQ terrorist obtain a surface to air missile system sufficient to bring down a plane with a cruising altitude of over 30,000ft, and smuggle it into the US then find out the flight path of AF1 so as shoot it down
Sounds very far fetched to me.
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Post by Marshall on Feb 23, 2022 0:51:53 GMT
Oh I don't know. A plane has to take off from somewhere before reaching Mach 1 and 30,000 feet.
Not saying it would be a slam dunk but I don't think it's so inconceivable that they wouldn't want to plan for the possibility of a SAM, no?
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Post by flatandy on Feb 23, 2022 1:24:52 GMT
Who had the kinds of accurate surface to air missiles that could evade counter measures, were in the US, knew where Air Force One was, and wanted to take down the President?
And also, can fighter support even take out missiles?
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Post by Marshall on Feb 23, 2022 1:32:55 GMT
Air Force 1 was presumably where Bush was and he was on live TV at the time reading books to kids so his location was known.
Don't know if they could take it out with another missile but they have countermeasures and as a last resort would "take the bullet" if possible.
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Post by rick49 on Feb 23, 2022 2:55:04 GMT
So, because some people thought something, it's true? Describe how some ill-educated pilots of civilian aircraft could take out AF1. Oh, hang on, I don't think you can. why argue with me? i don't have to describe anything. it's the pilots of af-1 who were concerned. it's the secretary of defense who were concerned. the secret service. tell them they had nothing to worry about, not me. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 23, 2022 11:10:47 GMT
Oh I don't know. A plane has to take off from somewhere before reaching Mach 1 and 30,000 feet. Not saying it would be a slam dunk but I don't think it's so inconceivable that they wouldn't want to plan for the possibility of a SAM, no? It has both heat decoys and ECMs. |
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Post by mids on Feb 23, 2022 11:25:17 GMT
Has there been some sort of attack in America?
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 23, 2022 11:49:19 GMT
A panic attack only. Or a crisis of confidence.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 23, 2022 16:06:38 GMT
Rick might be the enemy within, but I'm pretty sure he's not "The left" unless he's a fifth columnist planted by communists to make righties look even more stupid than they normally are. But if Rick is, then so are thousands of other people commenting on the internet, writing articles, running multiple news TV stations, and so on. It is a pretty massive plot if it is a plot.
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Post by ootlg on Feb 24, 2022 8:33:41 GMT
Or how AQ terrorist obtain a surface to air missile system sufficient to bring down a plane with a cruising altitude of over 30,000ft, and smuggle it into the US then find out the flight path of AF1 so as shoot it down Sounds very far fetched to me. Or even get to take over the planes in the first place; it's hard enough to get on even if you're a bona fide passenger. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 24, 2022 11:21:19 GMT
Well, it is now. It wasn't then. QED.
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Post by voice on Feb 24, 2022 16:25:21 GMT
And it was never an option on AF1
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Post by ootlg on Feb 24, 2022 16:36:47 GMT
Well, it is now. It wasn't then. QED. Anyone could go jump on a plane and fly it away? If you say so Biggles. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 24, 2022 18:57:30 GMT
That isn't what you suggested.
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 24, 2022 18:59:03 GMT
The 9/11 attackers hijacked the aircraft when they were already airborne.
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Post by happyhammerhead on Feb 24, 2022 19:30:46 GMT
Never much keen on agreeing with Baloo, but that is fact and record.
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Post by ootlg on Feb 25, 2022 7:21:16 GMT
No-one's disagreeing. What's the issue?
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 1, 2024 6:19:56 GMT
"Three of the men accused of plotting the 11 September 2001 attacks on the US have entered into a pre-trial agreement, the Department of Defense says. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin Attash, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al-Hawsawi have been held at the US Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for years without going to trial. Details of the deal have not been announced, but US news outlets say the men will plead guilty in exchange for the prosecution agreeing not to seek the death penalty." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldy01z6xnpoThere's a strange bathos about this: a grubby little deal to get the business done. What strikes me is the sense that the organisers were just professionals, getting a job done, with no particular interest in the product or the brand other than how it could be used to manipulate others. You might question why fanatical devout Muslims wouldn't welcome martyrdom at the hands of The Great Satan but no, these lads choose life, even a life in prison. I wonder if that look is convenient for the Yanks too, as it must be quite demoralising for jihaddists around the World. |
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