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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 17:31:18 GMT
The EU: "We absolutely will not accept those illegal immigrants back because our law says err...... we must".
With me now?
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 17:33:30 GMT
"I'm sorry, sir. You can't come into this restaurant wearing a tie. It is the house policy that all diners must wear a tie. We're very strict about that"
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 8:14:44 GMT
It makes the 'first safe country' a non-argument for the UK. As I understand it asylum can be asked anywhere, which is why the Dublin Convention was put together, to stop the asylum shopping around Europe. Which incidentally means that Italy or Spain (at the moment) should be held to account. But they're not. None of this now applies to the UK, and strictly speaking, sending back refugees to the EU is not only against every human right in the book, but illegal. As a member of the EU they were within their rights to do that. Tripe. Let's start again.
Validate your response.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 8:18:13 GMT
Already done.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 8:18:34 GMT
The EU: "We absolutely will not accept those illegal immigrants back because our law says err...... we must". With me now? |
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 8:25:01 GMT
Not. Admit - you're wrong. |
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 8:25:52 GMT
The EU: "We absolutely will not accept those illegal immigrants back because our law says err...... we must". With me now? WTF? |
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 8:49:03 GMT
Not. Admit - you're wrong. Why would I admit I am wrong when I've made my argument and you haven't laid a glove on it? |
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 8:51:11 GMT
Okay, back to basics. State your argument with this assertion: "the settled, legal, position of the EU is that immigrants seeking asylum should make that application in the first country they can".
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 8:52:42 GMT
You haven't made an argument though. Just the usual Baloo obfuscation. I've reposted to shortcut your BS and you still won't answer.
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 8:53:31 GMT
Okay, back to basics. State your argument with this assertion: "the settled, legal, position of the EU is that immigrants seeking asylum should make that application in the first country they can". It makes the 'first safe country' a non-argument for the UK. As I understand it asylum can be asked anywhere, which is why the Dublin Convention was put together, to stop the asylum shopping around Europe. Which incidentally means that Italy or Spain (at the moment) should be held to account. But they're not. None of this now applies to the UK, and strictly speaking, sending back refugees to the EU is not only against every human right in the book, but illegal. As a member of the EU they were within their rights to do that. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 8:57:21 GMT
Just answer the question. We'll get to the implications for UK (again) later on.
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 9:12:10 GMT
Start at the beginning with the first post which you ridiculed:
It makes the 'first safe country' a non-argument for the UK. As I understand it asylum can be asked anywhere, which is why the Dublin Convention was put together, to stop the asylum shopping around Europe. Which incidentally means that Italy or Spain (at the moment) should be held to account. But they're not. None of this now applies to the UK, and strictly speaking, sending back refugees to the EU is not only against every human right in the book, but illegal. As a member of the EU they were within their rights to do that.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 9:18:47 GMT
You’re just reposting the same article and avoiding engaging with the argument. I have asked you a very simple question, repeatedly.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 9:20:11 GMT
Okay, back to basics. State your argument with this assertion: "the settled, legal, position of the EU is that immigrants seeking asylum should make that application in the first country they can". Come on, grow a pair. It's just a question. |
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Post by ootlg on Nov 21, 2021 9:23:24 GMT
Hahaha.. you're a joke. I ask you to support your initial rather childish post and you can't.
I'll take that as you fucked up and are trying to squirm out of it. Fair enough. Bye.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 9:26:18 GMT
I'm trying to support my argument (again) and to scrutinise yours. As usual, you've buckled under the slightest pressure.
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Post by flatandy on Nov 21, 2021 13:21:37 GMT
The positions of both the UK and EU are morally rotten and just because it’s the absolute absolute minimum they are legally required to do doesn’t mean that it’s all they should do.
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Post by mids on Apr 6, 2022 19:17:39 GMT
Scum. "A man has admitted causing £10,000 worth of criminal damage to the Manchester Arena memorial. Anwar Hosseni, 24, admitted to vandalising the The Glade Of Light, a white marble "halo", which has the names of all 22 people murdered in the May 2017 attack. The offence took place on 9 February, just weeks after the memorial - described as a "place to reflect" - was opened to members of the public." www.itv.com/news/granada/2022-04-06/man-admits-vandalising-manchester-arena-memorial |
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 2, 2023 18:29:27 GMT
So, the Manchester Arena enquiry has concluded that MI5 did it, and laughed about it.
"Caroline Curry, whose 19-year-old son Liam was killed in the attack, said: "Forgiveness will never be an option for such evil intentions and those that played any part in the murder of our children will never, ever get forgiveness.
"From top to bottom, MI5 to the associates of the attacker, we will always believe you all played a part in the murder of our children."
Caroline Curry is an utter, utter cunt.
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