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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:38:46 GMT
"Made up". Honestly, "debating" with van is like being dry-bumped by the village idiot.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:38:50 GMT
Oh I missed it before it’s because she is a Labour MP. So in the pro-rape Bear’s eyes, her being groomed and raped becomes ok. More made-uppity. It’s fairly obvious. You have yet to label any of the white grooming victims of South Asian men “willing participants”. Strange that.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:40:01 GMT
Whatever it was it was only 12 years for 7 killings. From what we know, that's 12 years too many. Unlikely. 32 were declared justifiable. That means 7 were not and those are the ones he was convicted of.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:41:03 GMT
You describe a groomed young girl as a “willing participant” in her own rape. There must be some pretty horrendous skeletons in your closet. Imagine defending rape like this because the victim was groomed. Embarrassing. All made up. Do you remember what we talked about? Yes. You calling a child victim of grooming a “willing participant” in her own abuse.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:44:46 GMT
"Made up". Honestly, "debating" with van is like being dry-bumped by the village idiot. Quoting your own words to you aren’t a debate. You called a child victim of grooming and sexual abuse a “willing participant”.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:45:01 GMT
From what we know, that's 12 years too many. Unlikely. 32 were declared justifiable. That means 7 were not and those are the ones he was convicted of. Yes, Trigger, but on what grounds?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:45:23 GMT
"Made up". Honestly, "debating" with van is like being dry-bumped by the village idiot. Quoting your own words to you aren’t a debate. You called a child victim of grooming and sexual abuse a “willing participant”. I did no such thing.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:52:55 GMT
Unlikely. 32 were declared justifiable. That means 7 were not and those are the ones he was convicted of. Yes, Trigger, but on what grounds? Don’t know - don’t care. He got 12 years for 7 lives. And the judge did not find their killings “justifiable”.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:55:01 GMT
Quoting your own words to you aren’t a debate. You called a child victim of grooming and sexual abuse a “willing participant”. I did no such thing. The Bear: “Don't be a goon. She herself says she was a willing participant and that the rape was statutory. She wasn't attacked.” She says she was groomed by an older man. You have decided that makes her a “willing participant”. So this is you describing a child victim of grooming and sexual abuse as “a willing participant.” Children cannot consent to sex which makes it rape and they certainly cannot consent to being groomed. If you don’t like the word “attacked” then switch it for “abused” as that is clearly what she was subjected to.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:56:20 GMT
Yes, Trigger, but on what grounds? Don’t know - don’t care. He got 12 years for 7 lives. And the judge did not find their killings “justifiable”. Ah, this has been a waste of pixels. You could have just said "I don't know".
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:57:02 GMT
The Bear: “Don't be a goon. She herself says she was a willing participant and that the rape was statutory. She wasn't attacked.” She says she was groomed by an older man. You have decided that makes her a “willing participant”. So this is you describing a child victim of grooming and sexual abuse as “a willing participant.” Children cannot consent to sex which makes it rape and they certainly cannot consent to being groomed. If you don’t like the word “attacked” then switch it for “abused” as that is clearly what she was subjected to. Where did she say she was attacked?
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 16:57:43 GMT
Don’t know - don’t care. He got 12 years for 7 lives. And the judge did not find their killings “justifiable”. Ah, this has been a waste of pixels. You could have just said "I don't know". But why do you care? He was found guilty on the grounds they were not justifiable killings. Why are the specifics relevant? Clearly they were deemed to be not justifiable hence him facing jail time. Unless you think the judge found him not guilty of 39 murders but sentenced him to jail for 7 for shits and giggles.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:58:52 GMT
Are you saying that you know for a fact that she wasn't bang up for it? That no 15 year old has ever been able to have consensual sex with an 18 year old?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 16:59:51 GMT
Ah, this has been a waste of pixels. You could have just said "I don't know". But why do you care? He was found guilty on the grounds they were not justifiable killings. Why are the specifics relevant? Clearly they were deemed to be not justifiable hence him facing jail time. Unless you think the judge found him not guilty of 39 murders but sentenced him to jail for 7 for shits and giggles. Well, the circumstances haven't been differentiated.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 17:01:48 GMT
Convicted of murder and assassination.
And it turns out it was 20 years for 7 murders and 2 attempted murders.
South Africa. What a surprise.
Just over two years per murder victim.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 17:05:02 GMT
Interestingly his daughter also went to prison too.
He received 20 years for murdering 7 black people (and attempting to murder 2 more).
His daughter received 25 years for arranging to have ONE white woman killed (her mother).
Interesting. Very interesting…..
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Post by voice on Jul 22, 2024 17:06:55 GMT
Don't be a goon. She herself says she was a willing participant and that the rape was statutory. She wasn't attacked. “Willing”? Hmm. Interesting interpretation of the law on consent. At what age do you think a child can’t be “willing”? What level of persuasion and grooming by the adult is acceptable? It's only rape if the perp is Asian, you should know that by now.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 22, 2024 17:09:56 GMT
Interestingly his daughter also went to prison too. He received 20 years for murdering 7 black people (and attempting to murder 2 more). His daughter received 25 years for arranging to have ONE white woman killed (her mother). Interesting. Very interesting….. Yes, that was interesting. Funny what you can find out if you bother. I would be genuinely interested to know why he was convicted of some of the killings, as most appear to be largely unjustified.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 17:11:57 GMT
Interestingly his daughter also went to prison too. He received 20 years for murdering 7 black people (and attempting to murder 2 more). His daughter received 25 years for arranging to have ONE white woman killed (her mother). Interesting. Very interesting….. Yes, that was interesting. Funny what you can find out if you bother. I would be genuinely interested to know why he was convicted of some of the killings, as most appear to be largely unjustified. Well if you want to know you can always look it up. It’s amazing what you can find out if you bother.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 22, 2024 17:14:18 GMT
Are you saying that you know for a fact that she wasn't bang up for it? That no 15 year old has ever been able to have consensual sex with an 18 year old? Why are you inventing an 18 year old? Why are you making up random things? It is highly unlikely anybody is referring to an 18 year old teen as an “older man”. I am saying she was groomed. Which is exactly what she has said and what you have described as being a “willing participant”.
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