Time To Shut Down The BBC

[voice]

He has to invent the 18 yo cos he's simply trying to dismiss her rape and abuse as we know he hates women and has a long history of being a rape apologist when the perp is white and the woman is from a group he also Hayes, in this case her political party.

Were she a Tory and her groomer was found to be non white the usual tedious racist responses would be being posted "send him back" "kill him" and so on.

[perrykneeham]

It's a hypothetical 18 year old. Still "a man", unless you're now saying it matters how old the "man" was?

[perrykneeham]

Jul 22, 2024 17:18:39 GMT voice said:

He has to invent the 18 yo cos he's simply trying to dismiss her rape and abuse as we know he hates women and has a long history of being a rape apologist when the perp is white and the woman is from a group he also Hayes, in this case her political party.

Were she a Tory and her groomer was found to be non white the usual tedious racist responses would be being posted "send him back" "kill him" and so on.

Weak.

[Repat Van]

Jul 22, 2024 17:26:32 GMT perrykneeham said:

It's a hypothetical 18 year old. Still "a man", unless you're now saying it matters how old the "man" was?

Nobody refers to “being groomed by an older man” as “having underaged sex with an 18 year old boyfriend.

Or are you just insisting that she is making a false allegation?

[Repat Van]

Jul 22, 2024 17:27:04 GMT perrykneeham said:

Jul 22, 2024 17:18:39 GMT voice said:

He has to invent the 18 yo cos he's simply trying to dismiss her rape and abuse as we know he hates women and has a long history of being a rape apologist when the perp is white and the woman is from a group he also Hayes, in this case her political party.

Were she a Tory and her groomer was found to be non white the usual tedious racist responses would be being posted "send him back" "kill him" and so on.

Weak.

I think it’s a fairly accurate summation and so would you if you were being honest.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 22, 2024 17:28:53 GMT Repat Van said:

Jul 22, 2024 17:27:04 GMT perrykneeham said:

Weak.

I think it’s a fairly accurate summation and so you you if you were being honest.

In English?

[perrykneeham]

Jul 22, 2024 17:28:06 GMT Repat Van said:

Jul 22, 2024 17:26:32 GMT perrykneeham said:

It's a hypothetical 18 year old. Still "a man", unless you're now saying it matters how old the "man" was?

Nobody refers to “being groomed by an older man” as “having underaged sex with an 18 year old boyfriend.

Or are you just insisting that she is making a false allegation?

Not at all, merely that she's open to the suggestion that she's being a bit creative for her own ends.

[Repat Van]

Jul 22, 2024 17:31:13 GMT perrykneeham said:

Jul 22, 2024 17:28:06 GMT Repat Van said:

Nobody refers to “being groomed by an older man” as “having underaged sex with an 18 year old boyfriend.

Or are you just insisting that she is making a false allegation?

Not at all, merely that she's open to the suggestion that she's being a bit creative for her own ends.

So you think she is making a false allegation based on nothing more than your misogyny.

Got it.

[voice]

In law an 18 yo shagging a 15 yo would not be considered grooming, the man has to be over 21 for it to be considered a serious sexual offence.

Though it's academic as we all know when she said an older man she didn't mean a couple of years older, it's just a thing you need to pretend so you can diminish her rape and abuse.

[Repat Van]

This is what happens when you’re a man who hates women.

[Repat Van]

I think you can actually officially be a groomer in law at any age but that’s by the by as she would never have referred to him as an “older man” if he was a teenager. Albeit older than her.

It’s weird the women who are automatically believed and the ones considered to be “making it up.”

[perrykneeham]

Jul 22, 2024 17:46:46 GMT voice said:

In law an 18 yo shagging a 15 yo would not be considered grooming, the man has to be over 21 for it to be considered a serious sexual offence.

Though it's academic as we all know when she said an older man she didn't mean a couple of years older, it's just a thing you need to pretend so you can diminish her rape and abuse.

How can you possibly know that?

[perrykneeham]

Brilliant. You're all over the place, and making stuff up left, left and left.

[happyhammerhead]

Jul 22, 2024 16:58:52 GMT perrykneeham said:

Are you saying that you know for a fact that she wasn't bang up for it? That no 15 year old has ever been able to have consensual sex with an 18 year old?

Are you against it being illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor?

I've known 15 year olds to be 'up for it'.

Known kids of 11 who were too. That OK?

Haven't always been a law-abiding citizen, but in this case, it's gotta be for the best.

[perrykneeham]

You make my point for me. It's ridiculous to insist that the woman was "attacked" because she was 15.

I agree that there should be an age of consent, but we're all aware that it wasn't uncommon for mid-teens girls to be seeing older lads. A common scenario was girls doing O levels seeing lads in the sixth form (especially those with cars).

There is, not unreasonably, a grey area here which I think we were all aware of at the time (I don't think I have ever been out with someone younger than me, at least not until we were both over 18). This politician's story just comes across as very sketchy indeed: perhaps that's what comes of trading in victimhood.

[perrykneeham]

"The BBC's annual report will be published later, with the usual names likely to dominate the star salaries list.

Once again, Gary Lineker and Zoe Ball are expected to be among the corporation's top earners, thanks to their jobs hosting Match of the Day and Radio 2's breakfast show respectively.

But there are many, many more stars who earn huge amounts of money from the BBC, several of them almost certainly more than Lineker and Ball, whose names will be absent.

That's because of a quirk which means the BBC does not have to disclose the salaries of stars who are paid through production companies."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czk0711yn49o

It's fair enough if genuine contractors are paid what they're paid*, but this article is about getting in an early defence. "If you think our staff are overpaid, you should see what the contractors are (probably) paid. All of which is academic as, ultimately, licence fees pay for it all, staffers or not.

*payment by dividend really should be looked at, especially for left luvvies.

[moggyonspeed]

Especially for left luvvies?

Aah - so the right really are different, should be treated differently, and are somehow "other". Got it.

Obviously the same right who are still bemused as to why the electorate handed them their arses on a plate earlier this month.

[mids]

You seem to have missed the fact that no one expected anything other than a wipe out for the Tories. Another of your famous "woosh!" moments?

[perrykneeham]

Jul 23, 2024 8:52:09 GMT moggyonspeed said:

Especially for left luvvies?

Aah - so the right really are different, should be treated differently, and are somehow "other". Got it.

Obviously the same right who are still bemused as to why the electorate handed them their arses on a plate earlier this month.

Silly boy. They make themselves "other" by being preachy about funding while benefitting from a nice little perk. I think it's a difficult position to take when you're paying 20% tax, at most.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 23, 2024 8:52:09 GMT moggyonspeed said:

Especially for left luvvies?

Aah - so the right really are different, should be treated differently, and are somehow "other". Got it.

Obviously the same right who are still bemused as to why the electorate handed them their arses on a plate earlier this month.

FPTP did that, not the electorate.