US 2020 election

[voice]

as the idiots shows day in day out, the far right are simply channeling one of their great heroes, Joe Goebbels, who coined the unforgettable maxim 'accuse others of things you yourself are guilty of'

[voice]

Good article about why its important to know what words mean.

newsletters.theatlantic.com/peacefield/6206c37b9d9e380022bed32f/is-it-fascism-is-it-socialism/?fbclid=IwAR3rKEnLeuX1C6L8C_xbtuj1-kh2BYuCf6hw8wo1txUR6UxWEx8-0l7GdIk

Is it Fascism? Is it Socialism?
Words mean things.

[voice]

nah, blackmailing an allied nation in order to manufacture dirt on your opponent is far far worse, even if this latest piece of far right fan fiction were true, it would still be small potatoes companied to that.

[jimboky]

Feb 13, 2022 14:12:28 GMT voice said:

nah, blackmailing an allied nation in order to manufacture dirt on your opponent is far far worse, even if this latest piece of far right fan fiction were true, it would still be small potatoes companied to that.

unless you are SOS and involve the powers of the government to help,

[flatandy]

Hmm. A $400 bill that was paid, but paid a bit late? And this is the cause of the author’s conniptions. No wonder the DOE said it wasn’t worth their time dealing with this kind of nonsense. Yes, clearly, dealing with droughts and floods is more important.

Also, a $400 late filing fee is the cause of the right’s freak out yet somehow they’re totally unconcerned by their hero’s accounting firm’s decision to suddenly admit that the Trump Organisation’s last decade of tax returns are so full of lies that they have to be withdrawn, and that they have sacked their client! Billions, maybe tens of billions of dollars in dodgy tax returns - nothing to see here. $400 late fee - OMG! MELT DOWN!

[jimboky]

Feb 13, 2022 17:24:37 GMT rick49 said:

she had trumps residence hacked, too.

"Let all that sink in for a minute. Hillary Clinton’s campaign paid for surveillance of Trump after he became president and was in the White House. Look, I put nothing past the Clintons. I’ve followed their careers since Bill was the governor of Arkansas and a rising star in Democrat politics. Their corruption is decades long and deep. However, even for them, spying on the President of the United States in the White House is shocking."

hotair.com/karen-townsend/2022/02/13/durham-claims-clinton-campaign-paid-tech-company-to-hack-trump-residence-and-the-white-house-too-n448239

So we all know that Trump was right, Hillary was/is the crook, as was the entire Democrat network that supported them,,, Trumps big mistake was not cleaning house at the White House, should have replaced everyone including the dishwasher,

[Marshall]

I see rick and jimbo are swooning over another bullshit story by their favorite propaganda outlet. Not like they'd care about factual reporting or anything.

Hillary didn't pay for it, there was no "infiltration", etc. Read what Durham is actually alleging if you really want to know (ha ha, I know right).


In other news, Trumps longtime accounting firm has cut ties with him and said a full ten years of their reports should not be relied upon (because their client is - who would have known? - a conman and a consummate liar).

www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-organization-accounting-firm-mazars-usa-financial-statements/

[voice]

It's becoming clearer why the cults fan fiction sites have started churning out Hillary stories again and small fry nothing burgers in the last week or so, whipping up rivers of weak piss from the idiot and his ilk The noose is tightening, as more criminal stuff is being revealed of the 'dear leader', steeling top secret documents, NY DA exposing all manner of corruption fraud and criminality leading to his accountants ditching him and refusing to lie any more. On top of that the Jan 6th investigators have turned Rudy and others in the inner circle who are now spilling their guts. Though the real driver of these fantasy pieces is polling last week showing his popularity among the GOP is falling rapidly on the back of the likes and Pence, Mitch and others refusing any more to peddle the big lie.

[Marshall]

Trump is going to have a hard time securing any loans for his failing businesses and legal fees after getting dumped by his accounting firm.

The poor corrupt bastard.

[voice]

..., but Hillary, something something something...

[flatandy]

To be fair, Trump probably no longer needs loans. It looks like his acolytes are happy to just give him hundreds of millions of dollars of "campaign" money and don't care that the campaign then pays the Trump organisation hundreds of millions of dollars to "host" events and for staff to stay in the hotels, and pays tens of millions in "salary" to Jared and Ivanka and Don Jr and Eric.

[Marshall]

Yes, we'll see how long that lasts.

Wonder if he got paid for his gig DJing at Mar-a-Lago?

[Marshall]

"Tips! Don't any of you morons know what a tip is?!"

[rick49]

[Marshall]

Go on then, rick. Explain what the Durham report is alleging.

[Marshall]

You cut and pasted some bullshit on it.

Nowhere in Durham's report does it say Hillary ordered this done, paid for it, or that the computers were hacked or infiltrated into.
That's just some made-up sh*t that you swallow without hesitation because you just love being a willing dupe.

[Marshall]

Former President Donald Trump said in a court filing Monday that he "denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to the truth" about his company's finances.

A day later, he issued a blistering 1,100-word statement in response to his longtime accounting firm Mazars USA dropping the Trump Organization as a client and claiming it could no longer stand by a decade's worth of tax documents. Trump waxed lyrical about his company's "fantastic assets" and said prosecutors should consider giving Hillary Clinton the death penalty instead of investigating the Trump Organization's finances.

news.yahoo.com/trump-said-court-had-no-140812303.html

Lying as the situation calls for, his usual mo. Truly a wonder how anyone can believe anything that spews forth from his gob.

[voice]

..,but Hillary, something something something...

[Marshall]

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol said on Wednesday that there was enough evidence to conclude that former President Donald J. Trump and some of his allies might have conspired to commit fraud and obstruction by misleading Americans about the outcome of the 2020 election and attempting to overturn the result.

In a court filing in a civil case in California, the committee’s lawyers for the first time laid out their theory of a potential criminal case against the former president. They said they had accumulated evidence demonstrating that Mr. Trump, the conservative lawyer John Eastman and other allies could potentially be charged with criminal violations including obstructing an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the American people.

The filing also said there was evidence that Mr. Trump’s repeated lies that the election had been stolen amounted to common law fraud.

The filing disclosed only limited new evidence, and the committee asked the judge in the civil case to review the relevant material behind closed doors. In asserting the potential for criminality, the committee largely relied on the extensive and detailed accounts already made public of the actions Mr. Trump and his allies took to keep him in office after his defeat.

The evidence gathered by the committee “provides, at minimum, a good-faith basis for concluding that President Trump has violated” the obstruction count, the filing, written by Douglas N. Letter, the general counsel of the House, said, adding: “The select committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the president and members of his campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States.”

www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/us/politics/trump-criminal-charges-jan-6.html

Lock him up!

[voice]

Sadly Garland appears to lack the balls to go after anyone for their treasonous actions on Jan 6th.