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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 18:24:12 GMT
Maybe link?
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 18:35:14 GMT
So, now the children have gone for baths and bed, what do we have here?
Two former Dibblesses who have, they allege, been subjected to sexual and physical assault over a period of time by a Dibble with whom they were both in a relationship outside work. I have no reason to doubt their word or any intention of trivialising their experiences.
I wonder if they complained as private citizens or as an internal police matter?
Anyone know?
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Post by flatandy on Apr 1, 2021 18:39:42 GMT
Who would they have complained to, as a private matter?
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Post by voice on Apr 1, 2021 18:41:04 GMT
What we know he raped at least 2 different women the investigation was botched either through incompetence or negligence, the met did nothing but as an obvious crime was committed the victims got paid out, there may have been a bit of domestic involved but thats a red mullet as rape is rape and unless the other was his daughter it can't be just passed of as domestic (though why belitte the rape as bring less cos he was married to the victim ?). Oh and the usual suspects are playing down the rape and targeting the victims as being only for money.
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 18:43:15 GMT
Who would they have complained to, as a private matter? They would have made a complaint as a member of the public, if you see what I mean. You can complain from both sides of the counter. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 18:48:49 GMT
What we know he raped at least 2 different women the investigation was botched either through incompetence or negligence, the met did nothing but as an obvious crime was committed the victims got paid out, there may have been a bit of domestic involved but thats a red mullet as rape is rape and unless the other was his daughter it can't be just passed of as domestic (though why belitte the rape as bring less cos he was married to the victim ?). Oh and the usual suspects are playing down the rape and targeting the victims as being only for money. Who's belittling anything? I've expressly said that I've no interest in doing that. What crime was committed? Do you know? They've been paid out by someone - not the police - but we don't know what for. You say we "know" there have been rapes. Really? That sounds just like Dibble when he says "we know who dunnit but we just can't pin it on the slimey git". |
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Post by flatandy on Apr 1, 2021 18:54:12 GMT
Who's belittling anything? I've expressly said that I've no interest in doing that. Well, you do keep saying that the woman seem to be saying they've been raped because they want compo. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 18:59:12 GMT
No, I'm trying to work out what the thinking is for resurrecting a failed, independently-investigated, historical claim for historical sexual assault by two women who should have been able to make the most effective use of several courses for legal complaint. Taking that into account, there seems to be zero chance of sanction against their alleged assailant (criminal level of proof required) but every chance of compensation (civil level of proof required).
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Post by flatandy on Apr 1, 2021 19:14:49 GMT
Because it was obviously a f**k*d up, failed "independent" investigation. They appear to have made the standard complaint. The Met handed the case off because it involved one of their own. Essex Police totally cocked up the investigation, even by their own admission
If they can't get a criminal case against the bloke because Essex Rozzers probably deliberately sabotaged the investigation to protect their rapey matey, then they should try and get whatever sanction they can applied to the bloke. He's finally got a misconduct hearing coming up.
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Post by voice on Apr 1, 2021 19:16:39 GMT
What we know he raped at least 2 different women the investigation was botched either through incompetence or negligence, the met did nothing but as an obvious crime was committed the victims got paid out, there may have been a bit of domestic involved but thats a red mullet as rape is rape and unless the other was his daughter it can't be just passed of as domestic (though why belitte the rape as bring less cos he was married to the victim ?). Oh and the usual suspects are playing down the rape and targeting the victims as being only for money. Who's belittling anything? I've expressly said that I've no interest in doing that. What crime was committed? Do you know? They've been paid out by someone - not the police - but we don't know what for. You say we "know" there have been rapes. Really? That sounds just like Dibble when he says "we know who dunnit but we just can't pin it on the slimey git". you keep saying it was only domestic, as if that makes it lesser of an offence and again 2 different women, so its either not domestic or he assaulted his daughter as well as his wife. |
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Post by voice on Apr 1, 2021 19:29:11 GMT
Meanwhile A Met Police officer has been convicted of being a member of a banned neo-Nazi terrorist organisation. Benjamin Hannam, of Enfield, north London, was found guilty of membership of the banned right-wing extremist group National Action (NA). He was also convicted of lying on his Met Police application and having terror documents detailing knife combat and making explosive devices. Hannam is the first British officer to be convicted of a terrorism offence. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-56604470 |
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 19:44:19 GMT
Because it was obviously a f**k*d up, failed "independent" investigation. They appear to have made the standard complaint. The Met handed the case off because it involved one of their own. Essex Police totally cocked up the investigation, even by their own admission If they can't get a criminal case against the bloke because Essex Rozzers probably deliberately sabotaged the investigation to protect their rapey matey, then they should try and get whatever sanction they can applied to the bloke. He's finally got a misconduct hearing coming up. Except that it wasn't "handed off" and he wasn't a "rapey matey". You haven't established the nature of the complaint or how the investigation was mis-handled in any sense other than the complainants didn't get their own way. You're really scratching around here. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 19:45:52 GMT
Who's belittling anything? I've expressly said that I've no interest in doing that. What crime was committed? Do you know? They've been paid out by someone - not the police - but we don't know what for. You say we "know" there have been rapes. Really? That sounds just like Dibble when he says "we know who dunnit but we just can't pin it on the slimey git". you keep saying it was only domestic, as if that makes it lesser of an offence and again 2 different women, so its either not domestic or he assaulted his daughter as well as his wife. I have made no such suggestion. Look, if you don't have an argument, just say so. Don't make one up. |
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Post by voice on Apr 1, 2021 20:19:02 GMT
There's no question that he's done something nasty but is it a police issue or a domestic issue? And This is about money. Firstly domestic violence and or domestic rape is very much a police issue, and secondly belittling the victims as being only in this for the money. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 20:21:52 GMT
You're just making shite up now. Why not address the issues instead of posturing?
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 20:24:22 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot about your reading problems. Let's try again: is it an issue for a work complaint or a complaint as any member of the public?
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Post by voice on Apr 1, 2021 20:25:25 GMT
Making sh*t up by quoting you directly, wow you're in the rabbit hole deep even for you.
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 20:29:12 GMT
No, you don't seem to be able to read words. How did we not know that?
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Post by voice on Apr 1, 2021 20:30:52 GMT
Can you see Alice down there?
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Post by perrykneeham on Apr 1, 2021 20:31:17 GMT
So, you're entitled to additional time, as I'm sure you're aware. Have another go at the nature of the complaint: break it down into chunks and then try to compare the statements.
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