voice
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Post by voice on Jul 3, 2022 18:06:37 GMT
The thing religious nurs like psalms and Jim is they for get that faith should be a personal thing
If you're religious and say "it's against my faith to allow abortion" my response is always "great, well you shouldn't have one"
However if you're religious and say "it's against my religion to allow abortion so you can't have one" my response, and all rational thinkers, is always gonna be "fcuk off"
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 18:07:34 GMT
It’s not a good analogy it’s a racist analogy. (It’s also a stupid analogy as slaves are not making biological use of their owners organs, nor are they housed within the bodies of their owners. Try harder.) That is not even a good response . . there is nothing racist there - there is not a racist idea behind every rock and bush, even you might have been taught that by your social peers. It's a very good and applicable analogy and one which you would be best suited to consider. A person who aborts is just like a slaver who kills an unwanted field hand. If you can’t see why claiming black people, actual living, sentient beings are the same as children, heck less than children, it’s because you’re racist. Also the analogy is back to front. Women want the opportunity to evict foetuses from their bodies. Slave masters weren’t fighting to evict slaves from their plantations. It was quite the opposite…
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 18:08:36 GMT
Why not just accept that some are against abortion? No need to insult people because they hold different views. Nobody is being insulted for holding a different view.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 18:09:30 GMT
You're imposing your position on foetuses. Anyway people (try to) impose their positions on people all the time. Politics, woke sh*t etc etc etc. It's not a big deal. Being forced to remain in a state of pregnancy against your will, with all the physical and mental impacts of that is “not a big deal”? Ok.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 18:10:54 GMT
That is not even a good response . . there is nothing racist there - there is not a racist idea behind every rock and bush, even you might have been taught that by your social peers. It's a very good and applicable analogy and one which you would be best suited to consider. A person who aborts is just like a slaver who kills an unwanted field hand. the slave's body was the owners body, that is the point of slavery, just like the cow's body is the owners to do with as they wish,,,, Steaks tomorrow!! good point Psalms, Nobody tried to claim the slave’s body as the owner’s body. Not one person. For very obvious reasons. Property? Yes. Body? Absolutely not.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 3, 2022 18:18:42 GMT
Link?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 3, 2022 18:42:09 GMT
I think Jim's wrong to conflate the issues, but it is interesting to see people trying to defend abortion (the choice foe which lies with the woman, no problem there) by suggesting that the attitude of slavers was anything other than bestial and amoral.
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mids
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Post by mids on Jul 3, 2022 18:44:03 GMT
You're imposing your position on foetuses. Anyway people (try to) impose their positions on people all the time. Politics, woke sh*t etc etc etc. It's not a big deal. Being forced to remain in a state of pregnancy against your will, with all the physical and mental impacts of that is “not a big deal”? Ok. Being forced into a state of death against your will, with all the physical and mental impacts of that is a big deal.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 18:47:56 GMT
Being forced to remain in a state of pregnancy against your will, with all the physical and mental impacts of that is “not a big deal”? Ok. Being forced into a state of death against your will, with all the physical and mental impacts of that is a big deal. Happens to those awaiting organs everyday. They’re not forced into a state of death. They’re just denied the use of somebody’s organs. Death is an unfortunate side effect.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 3, 2022 18:53:43 GMT
That's an interesting point. Do you think that, had organ transplant been available in the c17 to c19, the slavers would have had any problem with "harvesting" their assets?
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 18:58:27 GMT
That's an interesting point. Do you think that, had organ transplant been available in the c17 to c19, the slavers would have had any problem with "harvesting" their assets? I think milk costs £1.19p a pint.
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Post by mids on Jul 3, 2022 18:59:07 GMT
Aborted foetuses are forced into a state of death.
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Post by mids on Jul 3, 2022 19:00:13 GMT
It's weird how Van's now claiming that slavery wasn't ideal but "was it really that bad"?
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 19:10:11 GMT
Aborted foetuses are forced into a state of death. Side effect. They should not have tried to hijack somebody’s organs.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 19:10:24 GMT
It's weird how Van's now claiming that slavery wasn't ideal but "was it really that bad"? You are actually deranged.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 3, 2022 19:21:11 GMT
Hush now, slaver.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 19:24:43 GMT
Internet trolls are so boring.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 3, 2022 19:33:18 GMT
Yes, you are.
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 3, 2022 19:36:54 GMT
“You smell like poo!”
Good god you are a literal child.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 3, 2022 19:40:00 GMT
You smell of slave mastery.
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