Traitor news

[flatandy]

This seems to be on the wrong thread. Boris is a traitor, but this was about different traitors trying to desperately cling on to power. At the moment, unlike them, Boris isn’t yet trying to cling on through a coup d’etat.

[mids]

I see Starmer thinks some women have penises.

[perrykneeham]

His mum did. She had a massive cock, called Kier.

[moggyonspeed]

Jun 6, 2022 10:45:08 GMT flatandy said:

This seems to be on the wrong thread. Boris is a traitor, but this was about different traitors trying to desperately cling on to power. At the moment, unlike them, Boris isn’t yet trying to cling on through a coup d’etat.

Really? Perhaps a modern coup d'etat doesn't necessarily mean the use of force, but instead seeks to tweak the Law in the sitting Government's favour. Take Boris Johnson's Elections Bill, which proposes the following ...

- The Electoral Commission should lose its independence and should be subject to the Government of the day's whim "to guide the work of the commission"; what price independence then?
- To introduce mandatory voter ID, thus further disenfranchising whole swathes of the electorate who are, historically, the least likely to turn out anyway.

Then there's the draft Online Safety Bill which, if passed, would allow the government to similarly "guide" Ofcom in its regulation of the internet etc., giving Johnson et al the means of determining what we can do online; this, as we know, it could use to further undermine democracy.

What about the Nationality & Borders Bill, giving the government the capacity to deprive individuals of their citizenship without notice? The UNHCR has gone on record to say that this is fundamentally at odds with the government’s own commitment in upholding the UK’s international obligations under the Refugee Convention.

Or the Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Bill, giving the Home Secretary considerable extra powers e.g. to place conditions on the basic human right to protest and to exercise the right to freedom of assembly. This government introduced a number of sleight-of-hand measures to the bill once it had already passed through the Commons, thus limiting the usual Parliamentary scrutiny of these new proposals.

Not to forget the Judicial Review & Courts Bill, the Subsidy Control Bill and the UK Internal Market Act, all of which could be used (and some already have) to further move the goalposts in Johnson's favour.

Perhaps not your textbook coup d'etat, rather a sneakier version of it - in a "frog-boiling" kind of way.

[unclejunior]

If Boris loses …. The runners & riders seem to be…
Sunak
Truss
Patel
Javid
Hunt
Hammond
May
Raab
Hammond

….. with a guaranteed 12 month stretch before another confidence vote can be held.

[perrykneeham]

Patel's a non-starter.

[perrykneeham]

Hunt and Hammond are outsiders at best.

[moggyonspeed]

The 1922 Committee can review the 12-month rule. Graham Brady threatened Theresa May with this back in 2018/2019.

That said, I doubt whether this will work with Johnson, as he has an ego so big that you can see it from space.

[mids]

While we're on the subject of traitors, the BBC. Just sayin',

[flatandy]

I expect Johnson to survive, but have maybe 80 or 100 votes against him. The number would be enough to depose him in parliament but the Tories won’t do that.
He will claim complete total victory and vindication. And then “leave on his own terms” in a few months.

I still suspect that Patel is the next leader.

[flatandy]

Apparently the very drunk Nadine Dorris’s tried to have a go at Jeremy Hunt on Twitter and managed to piss off loads of people to the extent that a few waverers seem to have moved into the no-confidence camp.

[moggyonspeed]

Jun 6, 2022 13:16:47 GMT mids said:

While we're on the subject of traitors, the BBC. Just sayin',

Agreed. That footage of HMtQ and Paddington Bear reminded me SOOOO much of Guy Burgess and Kim Philby, with the footman doing a passable Donald Maclean.

[mids]

Or William Joyce. Britain haters the lot of 'em! Which reminds me, Ireush scum!

[flatandy]

On the subject of our undocumented immigrant from Peru, why is he meeting her maj and not being “processed” in Rwanda?

[perrykneeham]

Indefinite right to remain.

[perrykneeham]

People might have have had concerns about Paddington's youthful association with Sendero Luminoso but if there were any security concerns, Ma'am allayed them.

[moggyonspeed]

Agreed. "Deepest darkest Peru" my arse.

[perrykneeham]

I was going to say that he was undocumented but, we do know that he arrived with some paperwork.

[flatandy]

I bet if he’d arrived at St Pancras or Ashford with that “documentation” he’d not be treated so kindly.

[perrykneeham]

He may well be trying to undermine our innovative jams industry.