General Election 2024

[perrykneeham]

"I said: 'Not like that, Jeremy - it's two in the pink and one in the stink.'"

[mids]

Ew.

[Repat Van]

Gross.

[mids]

You think she's that bad? I've met her, you know.

[voice]

More rats leaving, another defection to Labour, this time in Bolton, though I see Labour won't run the turncoat.

[perrykneeham]

Is he too left wing for Starmer's new party?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22n56e3z6o

[perrykneeham]

Starmer's buckled again.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69078711

He'll flip until he flops. He just can't stop!

[mids]

What a chump.

[flatandy]

What a chump. I notice he's still trampling on less high profile candidates. But this one is more visible so, like the true Child Of Blair that he is, he's caving on the one that's in the news today.

[perrykneeham]

"Sir Keir Starmer has pledged to cut levels of net migration to the UK if his party wins the general election.

The Labour leader said he would introduce new laws to train British workers to plug skills gaps in the job market and strengthen anti-exploitation laws.

He did not put a timeframe or a target figure on his promise, but told the Sun on Sunday, external: "Mark my words, a future Labour government will bring down net migration."


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn331vd99lzo


Utter cockrot. It's an interesting tactic, this. He knows that this is a key policy area, and he also knows that he can't fix it, largely because his own people demand that he doesn't. The gambit appears to be to just lie big.

[flatandy]

It is utter cockrot. He does know he can't "fix" it. The Tories also failed to "fix" it because fundamentally fixing it would require massive damage to the UK economy and probably a complete end to traditional market economics.

It's not actually an important policy area in reality. It's pure pitch to the small remaining rump Tory demographic of angry old people.

His solutions are ones that governments since time immemorial have said they'd do which haven't changed anything but appeal to low information voters who don't like the idea of immigration yet live in places with the fewest immigrants.

[perrykneeham]

It also seeks to glom onto widespread despair regarding illegal immigration.

[perrykneeham]

Jun 2, 2024 13:23:51 GMT flatandy said:

It is utter cockrot. He does know he can't "fix" it. The Tories also failed to "fix" it because fundamentally fixing it would require massive damage to the UK economy and probably a complete end to traditional market economics.

It's not actually an important policy area in reality. It's pure pitch to the small remaining rump Tory demographic of angry old people.

His solutions are ones that governments since time immemorial have said they'd do which haven't changed anything but appeal to low information voters who don't like the idea of immigration yet live in places with the fewest immigrants.

Of course, this is yet another example of where free market economics don't work, mainly because those market conditions simply don't exist in this context.

[voice]

Yeah the single best way that is never attempted in earnest is targeting the companies who generate the demand for low skill low pay workers, crack down on them and illegal immigration would plumet cos despite the hard of thinkers constantly thinking illegals come for benefits, they actually come to work. Though we all know the gov would never do that cos it would be a disaster for the economy.

[mids]

The left are really, really, really racist.

"Three candidates for the Greens are no longer standing at the election amid suggestions they made “inappropriate comments”, the party’s co-leader has said.

Adrian Ramsey said that three of those selected ahead of July’s poll were “no longer going forward”.

It comes after comments made by candidates on social media surrounding the Israel-Gaza conflict surfaced last month.

Speaking to the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg, Mr Ramsey said: “The Green Party takes any suggestions of anti-Semitism, or indeed any form of racism, very seriously.

“Any suggestions that have been made of inappropriate comments in recent weeks are being investigated by the relevant people.

“In the last couple of weeks, there were three candidates who had been selected who are no longer going forward.

“I understand there’s a small number more who are still being looked at.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/02/three-green-candidates-withdraw-in-racist-comments-row/

[perrykneeham]

"illegals come for benefits, they actually come to work. "

Link?

[voice]

Under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, people who do not have any immigration permission or whose visa comes with an individual NRPF condition are excluded from benefits and housing. An NRPF condition is mandatory for most types of visa.May 9, 2023

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9790/#:~:text=Under%20the%20Immigration%20and%20Asylum,for%20most%20types%20of%20visa.

[voice]

And the greens are not left they are just conservatives who recycle

[mids]

The greens are about as far left as left goes. Almost as left as the BBC.

[flatandy]

So not as far left as it goes, then.

Not even as far left as the right wing BBC, in fact.