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Post by luckysprite on Jan 28, 2009 14:24:30 GMT
Do try to keep up warofwords... this could get interesting.
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Post by jonren on Jan 28, 2009 14:25:45 GMT
"Who is Arwen" ?
Arwen is 2 of 7, a lovely lady from Glasgow.
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 14:30:01 GMT
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 14:33:10 GMT
I have just checked those christian and muslim numbers , they do not exceed 150 , hardly worth mentioning considering the bedoin are mostly trackers and not involved with the kill
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 14:33:46 GMT
Read it, it doesn't seem to answer the question (in fact it was irrelevant stuff about enlisting in the army if you are a Jew from somewhere other than Israel). Are Christians and Muslims serving in the IDF also Jews? |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 14:34:35 GMT
"Who is Arwen" ? Arwen is 2 of 7, a lovely lady from Glasgow. Well she ain't me if that's what you were insinuating ;D |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 14:35:18 GMT
Read it, it doesn't seem to answer the question (in fact it was irrelevant stuff about enlisting in the army if you are a Jew from somewhere other than Israel). Are Christians and Muslims serving in the IDF also Jews? Refer to the post above yours |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 14:35:40 GMT
The numbers may be small, but are they Jews?
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 14:41:12 GMT
"It isn't about the graffitti as such , it's that the jews have managed to set foot on their land again ."
I was gonna say... interesting choice of word. But seems others have beaten me to it.
As for the graffiti, it's possible it was done by individuals in the IDF. It's also possible as Jonren says that it was done by Hamas, to put a cherry on the icing of carnage they goaded Israel into.
If it was individuals in the IDF, not really surprising given the circumstances and no worse than is broadcast on mainstream Palestinian media about the 'joos'. I guess that's the difference, Israeli media wouldn't broadcast stuff like that while Hamas routinely does. I particularly like their Mickey Mouse children's character intended to inculculate hatred for Jews in the youngsters.
It's all on youtube and MEMRI
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 14:46:37 GMT
Incidentally this was reported in the Guardian the other week, I think when the IDF were still occupying the houses, so I would be pretty sure it was IDF people who wrote it.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 14:48:00 GMT
I'm very sceptical in general about everything that's been reported about Gaza. It was propaganda, smoke and mirrors from start to finish.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 14:49:39 GMT
Always a good plan. But if the IDF have basically admitted that their bods were responsible for it then the chances are it was their bods who were responsible for it.
That they will be investigated and disciplined suggests that the IDF do not like this sort of thing.
edited due to hideous homonyms.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 14:56:14 GMT
Like I said it's possible. There's also the possibility it's been added to. I don't think we can conclusively say members of the IDF wrote all the slogans attributed to them. Run around creeching saying 'they said this... and this... and this!'
Very stupid and base of the IDF individuals if they did do it. Poor public image was always going to be a serious drawback of mounting the operation and these numbskulls (bit of a Tarrant term there but appropriate in this case IMHO) added to it.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 14:57:56 GMT
But I think we can state that warofwords is an anti-semite. Those Obama posters can be quite misleading, before 'Jew' slipped out I thought he/she was just a bleeding heart.
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Post by limeylily on Jan 28, 2009 15:17:55 GMT
The numbers may be small, but are they Jews? This link about the Druze may go some way to answering your question. www.jcpa.org/jl/vp464.htm |
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 28, 2009 16:03:09 GMT
Ussifiya, Daliat al-Carmel - is now almost one town....absolutely lovely area, some amazing houses....very mixed community with druze and a large christian community a few muslim and a couple of jews.....
eating and shopping there is a must....they are charming, smart and savvy and it is a lovely blend of cultures
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 16:13:00 GMT
I've got a Jewish friend who is now pregnant with her Muslim husband's child. Frankly, if my mates can manage to get on despite religious differences I don't see why everyone else can't.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 17:01:52 GMT
"Frankly, if my mates can manage to get on despite religious differences I don't see why everyone else can't."
Not the most clever thing you've ever said.
"I've got a Jewish friend who is now pregnant with her Muslim husband's child."
I'd have liked this heart-warming tale better if the genders had been reversed. ie 'My muslim girlfriend is pregnant with her hindu/christian/jewish/buddhist's child.' If the kid is brought up as a muslim it will be taught to consider non-muslims as bound for hell, 'najis' (unclean) and unworthy of frienship.
Unless the kid repudiates the contents of the Koran, in which case it'll no longer be a muslim.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 17:06:11 GMT
Yes Cobbs, that was that thing called light hearted humour that you find so inscrutable. Ignore it.
The plan is for the kid to be brought up as Nothing and let it decide if it wants a god and if so which one.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 17:10:37 GMT
Sorry, missed the humour there.
I guess your friends are only nominally whatever religious tags they wear.
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