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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 28, 2009 17:11:00 GMT
I've got a Jewish friend who is now pregnant with her Muslim husband's child. Frankly, if my mates can manage to get on despite religious differences I don't see why everyone else can't. Here! Here! Good on the pair of them. Breaking down those ignorant stereotypes! Peace all-over!  |
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 17:11:01 GMT
By the way is that picture really of you?
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 28, 2009 17:12:28 GMT
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 17:14:17 GMT
The Jew is agnostic and the Muslim is a believer.
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 28, 2009 17:15:26 GMT
While your there VHW
Would you enlighten us please?
Du får visa mig respekt hora, jag vet var ditt hus bor och jag känner din telefon
Ta
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 17:20:01 GMT
The Jew is agnostic and the Muslim is a believer. What an objectionable cnut then. And no doubt the child will be brought up as a muslim. It's muslim belief that everyone is born a muslim, so unless the kid apostacises he'll be muslim by default. As I said, your tale would be much more heart-warming if it was a 'muslim' girl bearing the child of an infidel. The indoctrinated hatred of the 'other' comes from Islam only. |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 17:22:57 GMT
Why is he an objectionable cnut for believing in God?
I've just told you the child will not be brought up as any religion.
Why would it be any different if the girl was a Muslim instead?
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 17:56:03 GMT
It's not objectionable to believe in god, it's objectionable to choose Islam as the form of religious belief that he chooses to take. Read the Koran. If that's 'God' I'd hate to see what the Islamic devil would be like.
Actually it'd probably be a gay, laid back hindu.
And you ask why would it be different, if their genders were swapped. Because a muslim man is allowed to marry a woman if she is a 'person of the book', but a muslim woman isnt allowed to marry a christian or jewish man. So if the gender roles were reversed, it might signal some relaxation of the strict Islamic rules based on unbelievers being unclean filth.
This is purely my conjecture, but I think you'll find that your muslim mate's religion is merely in abeyance and will assert itself once the child is born.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 18:02:59 GMT
I don't think he chose Islam. He's Gambian, I think it was, like most religious people, something he acquired at birth through the cultural norms of society.
"This is purely my conjecture"
You don't say.
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Post by Amazed on Jan 28, 2009 18:05:07 GMT
I know a Jew/Muslim family, too. He is Jewish, she is a Muslim. They have two delightful daughters who have been raised without any burdens of religion.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 18:07:55 GMT
I know a Jew/Muslim family, too. He is Jewish, she is a Muslim. They have two delightful daughters who have been raised without any burdens of religion. There'll be something wrong with her for Cobbs to say she doesn't count. I'll have a fiver on "You're making it up", or "she's not a real Muslim". |
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Post by avieder on Jan 28, 2009 18:09:55 GMT
The Jew is agnostic and the Muslim is a believer. This string is really stupid. There was this war where people were killed and wounded and here you go blab ling on some silly graffiti - as if it has any relevance to anything. As to the Jewish - Muslim couple: According to Islam the religion of he child is according to the father. In Judaism the child's religion is that of the mother. Some time ago an old Arab grandmother in the West Bank was about to pass away, so she gathered all her children and told them that she is Jewish, and gave them her papers to prove it. Instantly all of them rushed to the the Israeli offices and applied as Olim..... |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 28, 2009 18:13:09 GMT
The Jew is agnostic and the Muslim is a believer. This string is really stupid. There was this war where people were killed and wounded and here you go blab ling on some silly graffiti - as if it has any relevance to anything. Perhaps you should read the thread, paying careful attention to who started it and who said what, before commenting. |
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Post by SKYBLUE on Jan 28, 2009 18:35:21 GMT
I'm a Baptised JEWISH MUSLIM and I'm locked in constant guilt over it?
Oy Vey, What am I to do?
...people say I shouldn't beat myself up over it?
...but it's irresistable???
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Post by Amazed on Jan 28, 2009 19:08:26 GMT
"There'll be something wrong with her for Cobbs to say she doesn't count. I'll have a fiver on "You're making it up", or "she's not a real Muslim"."
In that case I'm so sorry to disappoint Cobbs... I'm glad they didn't have to ask permission to marry from him.
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From Wikipedia:
"XXX" was born in Helsinki to Jewish parents. His father Abraham was a Polish Jew who had been in a concentration camp, while his mother was a Finnish Jew. He has been married to "YYY", a member of the Finnish Muslim Tatar community, since 1982 and has two daughters.
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Post by avieder on Jan 28, 2009 20:47:00 GMT
This string is really stupid. There was this war where people were killed and wounded and here you go blab ling on some silly graffiti - as if it has any relevance to anything. Perhaps you should read the thread, paying careful attention to who started it and who said what, before commenting. You got me Witch. I didn't go through all the posts on this string, only a few of the last ones. BUT why is it relevant Who said what as to the voicing to my views on the matter? Perhaps you think that I make my comments relative to whose side I am on?. It would make me happy to know that on this subject Berty and I might agreeeee.... |
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 23:30:21 GMT
I know a Jew/Muslim family, too. He is Jewish, she is a Muslim. They have two delightful daughters who have been raised without any burdens of religion. Well not exactly muslim then, but you can be a secular jew. |
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 23:31:48 GMT
I don't think he chose Islam. He's Gambian, I think it was, like most religious people, something he acquired at birth through the cultural norms of society. "This is purely my conjecture" You don't say. Well you pretty much agreed with my conjecture, that his religion is incidental. ie he's not a true 'believer'. |
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 23:32:41 GMT
I know a Jew/Muslim family, too. He is Jewish, she is a Muslim. They have two delightful daughters who have been raised without any burdens of religion. There'll be something wrong with her for Cobbs to say she doesn't count. I'll have a fiver on "You're making it up", or "she's not a real Muslim". You people seem wilfully stupid to me. |
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 29, 2009 9:13:41 GMT
Well you pretty much agreed with my conjecture, that his religion is incidental. ie he's not a true 'believer'. Well clearly he doesn't follow the Cobbsian strand of Islam, so if that's what you mean by "not a true believer" then he is not. He certainly thinks of himself as a Muslim and believes in God though. Your conjecture to which I was expressing mild disdain was that he is about to fling off the cloak of normalcy and become the rabid, globe-dominating political monster that all Muslims secretly really are deep down. I know, as does everyone by now, that you've read the Koran. I just don't think that means you know everything about every Muslim. |
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