Is this racism?

[perrykneeham]

Aug 26, 2024 1:51:45 GMT Repat Van said:

Aug 25, 2024 13:51:35 GMT perrykneeham said:

The sinking feeling that you've been arguing a point that was never made, and made a tit of yourself, again.

No you have repeatedly been obsessed with her race. That is clear. Over and over again. Obsessed over her ethnicity and gender when nobody else cares about it.

Wrong. Look at what's been written, and why. Come back when you're over your tantrum.

[flatandy]

Insistitus. You can insist as much as you want that you haven’t noticed her race, yet you’re the one going on about her race.

[perrykneeham]

Oh, I've noticed her races, and her gender, and her upbringing. So did Biden.

I haven't been "going on about her race", but how she actually aligns with what she's held out to be "of".

[flatandy]

So, here’s an interesting thing about those stats of MIT’s admission rates after affirmative action was ended. It appears that in the past if you added up the races going into MIT it was around 120% because there was lots of double counting as mixed race kids out both races.

This year it was 108%.

Which makes me wonder if lots of kids who had one black or Latino grandparent were claiming to be that race for affirmative action reasons but don’t actually really think of themselves that way when there’s no gain to be had.

Also interesting that MIT seems to have massively increased the proportion of low income kids as they’re still allowed to discriminate on that basis. Almost as if lots of rich kids had admissions advisers telling them to put the races of distant ancestors on their entrance sheets…

The increase in Asian kids getting in seems to be real. But it’s probably lower income Asian kids getting in at the expense of rich black or 1/16 black kids, rather than taking away from actual deprived groups

[mids]

I see the left are still evil racists. Not that what she did should be a criminal offence but this is the world the left want so...

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/12/pro-palestine-protester-trial-coconut-placard-sunak-braverman?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

[perrykneeham]

"Bryan said Hussain, from High Wycombe, had “crossed the line between legitimate political expression” and moved into “racial insult”."

Yeah, it's cringing adolescent all round.really. An Arab calling a couple of Asians "coconuts". It's almost like she can't form a coherent objection, or hold a line of argument, so she's gone after an imagined crime against a protected characteristic in which she had no particular investment.

Hmmm .... where have we seen that before, eh?

[flatandy]

Yeah. That's racist. Not sure on its own it's really racist enough to arrest someone. Only if they oppose Israel. TTK.

[mids]

Not everything that's racist is, or should be, a criminal offence. Look at the left. As racist as they come but I wouldn't suggest arresting them for it.

[mids]

Anyway, she's not guilty. Obviously a huge racist but not guilty of a crime.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2x202v2ejo

[flatandy]

Agree

[flatandy]

Still, even bringing this prosecution shows Britain's two tier justice system picking on the brown people who're talking about Israel while letting any number of white racists get away with all kinds of racism. TTK

[mids]

Although the fact that she, a brown person, got off with doing a Jew-hating race riot shows the depths of TTK.

[Repat Van]

“ Her defence said the placard was not racist, but satirical and humorous.”

Nah, it was definitely racist.

[Repat Van]

“ Rajiv Menon KC, defending, said: "That Marieha Hussain of all people is being prosecuted for a racially aggravated offence whilst the likes of Suella Braverman and Nigel Farage and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon - aka Tommy Robinson - and Frank Hester are seemingly free to make inflammatory and divisive statements ... is, I'm afraid, incomprehensible to many people."

Oh absolutely. Are there any other countries where people face accusations of racism for criticising its policies or just Israel?

[mids]

Inflammatory and divisive isn't racist. People say inflammatory and divisive things all the time. Do you think they shouldn't be free to? Is it incomprehensible to you?

[voice]

Sept 13, 2024 17:06:45 GMT Repat Van said:

“ Rajiv Menon KC, defending, said: "That Marieha Hussain of all people is being prosecuted for a racially aggravated offence whilst the likes of Suella Braverman and Nigel Farage and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon - aka Tommy Robinson - and Frank Hester are seemingly free to make inflammatory and divisive statements ... is, I'm afraid, incomprehensible to many people."

Oh absolutely. Are there any other countries where people face accusations of racism for criticising its policies or just Israel?

It’s well established Israel has successfully got it embedded that critics of Israel’s government are racist and anti-sematic not just in the UK but though most of Europe and North America

[Repat Van]

They are the only country that it’s like that for, isn’t it?

[mids]

I see grass and trees are still racist, even when they're in towns.


"A research project is aiming to improve the experience of visiting parks and green spaces for black, Asian and minority ethnic groups.

Researchers say more than half of the people from these communities visit a local park less than once a week.

“Green spaces have immense benefits to our physical and mental wellbeing," said University of Bath PhD student Zina Abdulla, who is conducting the study alongside Your Park Bristol and Bath (YPBB).

Roy Kareem, a Black and Green Ambassador for Bristol, said for many people it is down to "historical experiences of not feeling welcome".

The study follows a 2021 report by Groundwork which found people from low-income households or areas, minority ethnic groups and disabled people were among the groups least likely to use parks.

Mr Kareem, who also runs the Bright Green Future initiative and is a trustee of YPBB, said people living in "socially economically deprived areas" often have to face the "practical, physical realities" of struggling to get to green spaces.

He added that once they are there, many parks are not set up to suit people from all backgrounds and cultures."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxyv8r58go

[flatandy]

Are you saying that poor people and people with disabilities should be banned from parkland?

[Repat Van]

Sept 14, 2024 11:12:54 GMT mids said:

I see grass and trees are still racist, even when they're in towns.


"A research project is aiming to improve the experience of visiting parks and green spaces for black, Asian and minority ethnic groups.

Researchers say more than half of the people from these communities visit a local park less than once a week.

“Green spaces have immense benefits to our physical and mental wellbeing," said University of Bath PhD student Zina Abdulla, who is conducting the study alongside Your Park Bristol and Bath (YPBB).

Roy Kareem, a Black and Green Ambassador for Bristol, said for many people it is down to "historical experiences of not feeling welcome".

The study follows a 2021 report by Groundwork which found people from low-income households or areas, minority ethnic groups and disabled people were among the groups least likely to use parks.

Mr Kareem, who also runs the Bright Green Future initiative and is a trustee of YPBB, said people living in "socially economically deprived areas" often have to face the "practical, physical realities" of struggling to get to green spaces.

He added that once they are there, many parks are not set up to suit people from all backgrounds and cultures."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxyv8r58go

What’s wrong with encouraging more people from diverse background to visit free spaces?